TargetTalk

David Levene wrote:Out of interest, if it hadn't been discussed on shooting websites, how many of us would have been aware of this AI video.

I know that I have never seen it anywhere else.

Youtube is an arena for all sorts of obscure arguments against the Olympic Games in Beijing. I doubt if this AI contribution can survive, it is not nasty enough.
I am afraid it is the Olympic Games that is at stake here, not our sport. Once you give in for arguments for a boycott in a sport you are on a very thin ice. England 2012? But, were they not involved in a war in Iraq?
No country will apply for the games in the future.

Do not boycott the Olympic Games or other sport activity under ANY circumstances. It is a Pandoras box.
Kent

David Levene wrote:Out of interest, if it hadn't been discussed on shooting websites, how many of us would have been aware of this AI video.

I know that I have never seen it anywhere else.

Hi

Well, I worked Saturday, watched a little football on Sunday, Pistol league after work on Monday, Teaching Rifle class tonight, Wednesday work late, Thursday Eagle COH for a friend's kid and let dog take me to obedience school. Nope, if it weren't for this forum, I'd never have seen it. TV is for people who have nothing to go do.

Mike
Wichita KS

Hi jipe
Never got to see the first video as it's been pulled. The second one was obviously made by a non-shooter otherwise the spent bullet would have had rifling marks on it.
Good message though.
Target Bunny

And ignorance!
When I checked the link, the video had already been removed; so I haven’t seen it for myself. Although reading the comments on this forum, I think I got a pretty good idea of what de clip was like. Once more some people give proof not to be able to understand that it is possible to use guns very peacefully. Hitting a target needs (1) a person in good physical condition and (2) with a very balanced personality and character. Just like in most sports.
Everyone is free to enjoy the sport he likes but ‘martial’ arts or boxing are much more violent then shooting.
The calibre that is used in the Olympic events is another aspect. The .22 lr, although it can kill, was from the beginning intended as a ‘gallery’ cartridge, made for fun. Precision was the goal, not stopping power.
Amnesty International was always considered as a very neutral and objective organisation. More mistakes like this will compromise A.I. more then it will compromise our sport.

"Amnesty International was always considered as a very neutral and objective organisation."

Well, yes; depending on one's own personal point of view!

(Hamas is considered "centrist" and "too willing to compromise" in some quarters).

Steve Swartz

[AI has somewhat of a track record of picking on "certain unnamed western democracies" for finer civil rights points, while turning a blind eye to murder and gulags as long as they are perpetrated by "visionary leaders of the socialist revolution." Or so it could be credibly argued.]

Anonymous wrote:"Amnesty International was always considered as a very neutral and objective organisation."

Well, yes; depending on one's own personal point of view!

(Hamas is considered "centrist" and "too willing to compromise" in some quarters).

Steve Swartz

[AI has somewhat of a track record of picking on "certain unnamed western democracies" for finer civil rights points, while turning a blind eye to murder and gulags as long as they are perpetrated by "visionary leaders of the socialist revolution." Or so it could be credibly argued.]

Right so, that's why I wrote 'was considered'. By the way: the clip showing a Chinese guard failing to execute a prisoner because of the protest letters is also strange: a Chinese shooting a caucasian prisoner! Is Amnesty playing on racist motives to win their cause? I can hardly think so but it sure looks like it.

I don't think it is racist what it strives to do is put their demographic (which is predominently white) in that spot. Its no different than the ad with the girls playing soccer that get blown up by land mines. To suggest its racist is just another indication of hyper sensitivity and politcal correctness.