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Re: singing in your head makes better shooting?
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:05 pm
by seamaster
In precision, do you shoot with your conscious mind or unconscious mind?
In sport psychology, you can say you are fully engaged in the PROCESS.
Is that "process" conscious or unconscious?
Could that conscious mind become too critical? Could "focus on the front sight" too much lead to shaky hand and shaking head afterward?
On the other hand, what is unconsciousness in shooting?
That is too zen for me now. "Fully aware your unconsciousness".
Re: singing in your head makes better shooting?
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:26 pm
by aurorapolice02_11
There needs to be focus on the front sight. Too many people think the subconscious does everything. That is wrong. There are many aspects of shooting that happen because of repetition and do ultimately happen subconsciously. Focus is not one of them. Shooting is not automatic. It requires work and to think it happens entirely subconsciously is incorrect.
Re: singing in your head makes better shooting?
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:03 pm
by jr
Part of the lyrics from Led Zeppelin's "Battle of Evermore" (1971):
Shoot straighter than before
Good advice there.
Re: singing in your head makes better shooting?
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:54 pm
by David W. Johnson
Not so fast there. I'd like to see some photos of the gypsy violinist before I make that call. I presume she was wearing one of those long, flowing skirts and dancing around, right?
David
Re: singing in your head makes better shooting?
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:42 pm
by Lenny
David W. Johnson wrote:Not so fast there. I'd like to see some photos of the gypsy violinist before I make that call. I presume she was wearing one of those long, flowing skirts and dancing around, right?
David
Only Gypsy men play the violin. It's the music that counts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CbETXqd0xQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3fYZDqb7qw
Re: singing in your head makes better shooting?
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:24 pm
by Gwhite
aurorapolice02_11 wrote:There needs to be focus on the front sight. Too many people think the subconscious does everything. That is wrong. There are many aspects of shooting that happen because of repetition and do ultimately happen subconsciously. Focus is not one of them. Shooting is not automatic. It requires work and to think it happens entirely subconsciously is incorrect.
Yes, but with enough training, the muscle memory & subconscious can do wonderous things, including focusing on the front sight. You also have to differentiate between visual "focus" and mental "focus". Bringing the conscious mind into the picture
can (mentally) focus too much on one aspect to the detriment of other important parts of the process.
The first time I ever shot a 100 on a 10 second sustained fire target was when I was testing magazines. I had no intention of firing "carefully" to get a good score. I just picked up the pistol and banged out 2 magazines' worth in short succession, entirely on autopilot. I was absolutely floored by the result. A very "Zen & the Art of Archery" moment I have been trying to recreate for about 40 years.
Re: singing in your head makes better shooting?
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:21 pm
by SamEEE
I brainwashed myself into thinking that the front sight sharp = calm.
Singing seems like a real bad idea; what happens when the stress comes on and you can't seem to sing? You're boned.
Re: singing in your head makes better shooting?
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:14 pm
by Gwhite
I think a lot depends on your choice of tunes. I frequently find myself wandering around with the bit from the Wizard of Oz about "if I only had a brain..." going through my mind.
Re: singing in your head makes better shooting?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:50 am
by northpaw
SamEEE wrote:
Singing seems like a real bad idea; what happens when the stress comes on and you can't seem to sing? You're boned.
What about whistling in Your head during the final focusing at the front sight, when Your sights are about to get perfectly aligned at a "low 6 o`clock hold?
If you, at a moments distraction, then whistle out loud, Your fellow competitors may get boned. Boned, yes ..
(A most amazing thread this, I must say.)
Re: singing in your head makes better shooting?
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:30 am
by aurorapolice02_11
Gwhite. I would be skeptical that this was done entirely on auto pilot. If you have been trying to recreate it for 40 years, I would venture to say it was a lucky string. No offense.