Question about 1600 Anschutz

[Opusxc100]

I’ve been coming to this forum for just over a year now and based upon posts here I “think” I figured out what rifle I own. Any help in confirming my suspicions would be greatly appreciated.
I think I own a 1613/1607 based on what I’ve read here in your forums.
Rifle information:
S/N 173…X ( has an “A” above the 1 in the s/n
26 inch barrel ( heavy barrel I assume)
An “ HK” on the barrel beside an antler and a blob I can’t see well
Thumbhole wood stock w/adjustable cheek and adjustable hook
Slot in bolt under firing pin
Side safety
Angled bolt handle

p.s I think it’s odd that the barrel is 26 inches without the tapered grommet where the barrel enters the receiver. I was under the impression that the 26 inch barrel was on the 1607. The 1613 should have the 27.5 inch barrel, but what do I know!

Thank all of you for your time and efforts. I really do appreciate it!

[Tim S]

Your rifle was proof tested in 1979. The HK stands for 79, the antler represents the Ulm proof House, and the blob is the eagle of the Federal German Republic. 1979 was almost certainly the year it was made. I've owned a couple of 1613s, 1704--X and 1708--X, and both were 1979 proofed too.

Regarding barrel length, what are you measuring? Yes, a 1613 typically had a 27.2in (69cm) barrel, but this is measured from the chamber to the muzzle. Remember just over 1in of barrel lies inside the receiver. So, if you only measure from the front of the receiver it's about 26in to the muzzle. A 1600 lightweight/66cm barrel would be just under 25in receiver-muzzle. All the lighter barrels had the conical breeching ring at the receiver join.

Before I state categorically that you have a 1613, Anschutz made another rifle with a heavy 69cm barrel and a thumbhole stock: the 1610. The 1623 and 1610 are easily differentiated though; the 1613 stock is parallel to the barrel, and the grip has a rail for a palm shelf, where the 1610 stock is tapered like a 1607, and the grip has no rail inset.

[Opusxc100]

Thank you so much for your knowledge and help! Tim, I’ve been reading your posts for just over a year now and you are amazing and always helpful!

The stock runs parallel to the barrel. That would explain the trigger and the weight of the gun. But you have confirmed what I suspected. I’m wondering if I have the 5071 trigger that has the sear to adjust weight( I think that’s the way to describe it), I’ve read where there is a slightly better trigger before the 5018 came out. Thanks again Tim!

[Opusxc100]

Also, I didn’t account for the length of the barrel that’s inside the receiver. So, I do have the 1613 version.

[Tim S]

I’m wondering if I have the 5071 trigger that has the sear to adjust weight( I think that’s the way to describe it), I’ve read where there is a slightly better trigger before the 5018 came out. Thanks again Tim!

Hi,

Don't mention it.

As for triggers, I'd expect a 1613 to have a 5071. There was a single stage-only variant, described as 5071D and 5075 confusingly, which is typically found on the 1611. If you take the barrel out of the stock for any reason, look for a 71 cast into the trigger housing, usually at the back. The 5071 was the better trigger before the 5018, which is an improved 5071. What you may be thinking of is the 5071-1, effectively a 5018 with the old style sear compatible with 1600 (and 1400 54) bolts. But Anschutz never fitted these during 1600 production, only as spare parts many years later. My understanding is that Anschutz eventually ran out of original 5071 castings and began to build spares on 5018 bodies.

[Opusxc100]

So, if I understand correctly, I have the 5071 two stage trigger which is the precursor to the 5018. If I had to replace the trigger I would have to find the 5071, the 5018 is not compatible with the bolt. Correct?

Also, since I have you, I have a stock question. If I wanted to replace the stock, is my action going to fit in a 1913 supermatch wood stock? Or even the 1911(could be the 1914, can’t remember) Without any modifications. I would like to stick with the wood stock, those aluminum stocks scare me, so many adjustable parts! I’m old (57) and am just getting started in 4 position league (one season under my belt) shooting. I guess I’m more comfortable with the wood stock. Thank you for your time.

[Tim S]

So, if I understand correctly, I have the 5071 two stage trigger which is the precursor to the 5018. If I had to replace the trigger I would have to find the 5071, the 5018 is not compatible with the bolt. Correct?

Also, since I have you, I have a stock question. If I wanted to replace the stock, is my action going to fit in a 1913 supermatch wood stock? Or even the 1911(could be the 1914, can’t remember) without any modifications

That's correct, stock 5018 won't engage your 1613 bolt. For reasons Anschutz changed the shape and position of the sear (and firing pin) when they were creating the 1800; it's about 2mm further back compared to a 1600 or 1400. However, I believe you could swap the sear (catch in Anschutz-speak) from your 5071 to a 5018. Some Anschutz dealers might still have these.

As for stocks, your 1613 action will drop into any 1913, 1914, or 1912 (an older 1914 with a cheekpiece like your 1613) stock. The 1911 is the specialised prone-only job; it was discontinued nearly 25 years ago. A 1613 is dimensionally identical to a 1913. The only caveat would be if the stock was epoxy bedded for an xx07 barrel or a custom barrel, and the bedding went under the barrel. Then you'd just have to sand away some epoxy. I've done this to put xx07 barrels in xx13 stocks; it takes about 30 minutes.

[Opusxc100]

Thank you for all your help! You certainly cleared up some pressing issues that have been bothering me. Now off to the gun club and practice offhand!!! Lol

[Opusxc100]

I do have a quick question… what does the A over the serial number stand for?

[Tim S]

I do have a quick question… what does the A over the serial number stand for?

No-one seems to know. It's not a proof mark, or part of the regularserial number. A suggestion is it indicates rifles to be sold in North America,. It might also show a duplicated s/n.

[justadude]

I do have a quick question… what does the A over the serial number stand for?

No-one seems to know. It's not a proof mark, or part of the regular serial number. A suggestion is it indicates rifles to be sold in North America,. It might also show a duplicated s/n.

There is something to the theory about the 'A' indicating the North American market. I picked up a 1972 serial number 14xx series barreled action #103xxx, (Light barrel so it was probably in a 1407) that was brought in from Europe. Beyond knowing it came in from Europe, the barrel was not even tapped for the scope blocks that would have been typical for a rifle sold directly to the US market at that time and, there is no 'A' stamped into the receiver near the serial number.

Not definitive proof that the 'A' designates a North American or US market but does add to the theory.

'dude

[Tim S]

'Dude,

I certainly can't recall seeing an A on a rifle over here. Although I'm still not sure why Anschutz would need to mark rifles destined for North America. Heavy barrels of 1970s vintage here have 'scope blocks too, as do the odd ISU weight, but there are no distinguishing marks. Was it something required by the deal with Savage to import and market each others rifles?

[Opusxc100]

I’m going to try and figure out how to post a picture. I tried at the beginning of this thread but the file was too big. Hang in there while I figure this out. Thank you

[Opusxc100]

Ok, let’s see if this works

Serial number

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[Tim S]

Is that a Redfield 3200 or 6400?

[Opusxc100]

This might be better

Serial number

[Opusxc100]

24x redfield 3200. Crosshair but I’m looking for the dot, my team members all use the leupold and the target dot, they highly recommend it to me. I don’t know what to do as I’m new to this sport.

[Opusxc100]

Short story behind the scope… my Dad left it to me after he passed when I was 17, I packed it away not knowing anything about it, so when I joined this rifle league last year and started building my outfit, I pulled it out of mothballs and mounted it up! My Dad used it on a rifle my family nicknamed “the pope”! Lol. It must have been a special rifle because my Dad treated it like gold.

[James Storm]

To Tim of Taunton: You have a wide knowledge of Anschutz rifles and their variations. Is there any printed work on the subject which I could acquire? Thanks, Jim Storm of San Francisco

[Tim S]

To Tim of Taunton: You have a wide knowledge of Anschutz rifles and their variations. Is there any printed work on the subject which I could acquire? Thanks, Jim Storm of San Francisco

James,

I'm afraid I don't know of a detailed guide to Match 54s.