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nmondal
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Screw up!

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Guys.
So as usual, after months of OK stuff may I present the greatest screw up.

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Questions, HOW? WHY?
My hand literally shook when taking these 2 shots.
( muzzle flip ? )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzzle_rise

Any clue.. what went wrong?
And how to fix it?
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emre-nur
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Re: Newbie shooting question

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started with a nice 5 shots group, watching the front sight.
then an 8 and then a 6 came, spoiling the fun.

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william
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Re: Newbie shooting question

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emre-nur wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:56 am started with a nice 5 shots group, watching the front sight.
then an 8 and then a 6 came, spoiling the fun.
1. It isn't about the "fun."
2. What did you learn from this beyond that you may have the attention span of a gnat?
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Re: Newbie shooting question

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I myself retracted my comment.
Perhaps original was made in jest - and my "corporate" sensitivity took it a bit too far.
I was quick to react.
I am extremely sorry.
Sorry to William too - he had been helping us newbs in all possible way.
Last edited by nmondal on Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:00 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Newbie shooting question

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Now that we are at peace... this is peacetime shot - just after 30 mins or more I was pissed about those runaway shots.
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Re: Newbie shooting question

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william wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:23 am
emre-nur wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:56 am started with a nice 5 shots group, watching the front sight.
then an 8 and then a 6 came, spoiling the fun.
1. It isn't about the "fun."
2. What did you learn from this beyond that you may have the attention span of a gnat?
Indeed, I suffer from ADHD— meaning that, short attention span.
This is a kind of therapy for me that I try to concentrate and keep focus a little longer.
Though, not so successful.
Still, doing a lot of dry fire on the white wall— at least more than live shots.
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Re: Newbie shooting question

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emre-nur wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:50 am

Indeed, I suffer from ADHD— meaning that, short attention span.
This is a kind of therapy for me that I try to concentrate and keep focus a little longer.
Though, not so successful.
Still, doing a lot of dry fire on the white wall— at least more than live shots.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention ... y_disorder
Man, you need to concentrate only for 5 secs. That is it.
Then repeat again.
ADHD does not matter and will not matter.
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Re: Newbie shooting question

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Sad day for India... but ok. One day at a time.
This is today.
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Re: Newbie shooting question

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nmondal wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:04 pm Man, you need to concentrate only for 5 secs. That is it.
Then repeat again.
ADHD does not matter and will not matter.
5 sec of concentration will barely get you started IMHO.
I’d say that for a properly executed shot the time requiring full concentration is about 25-35 seconds.
- 10-15 sec preparation, mental walk through of your shot. A few deep breaths, feeling your stance etc.
5-7sec. Lift and lowering down into aiming area, proper grip, trigger 1st stage etc
5-10 sec. settling in aiming area, squeezing the trigger. The shot breaks
- 2 sec, follow through

Depending on how fast you go through a match there won’t be a whole lot of time to “not concentrate” in between shots.

Skanaker’s strategy was to maintain total concentration for about three shots, then let the mind wander and relax for a little while, then three new shots of total concentration. Mix it up with a few longer breaks (3-5 minutes)
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Re: Newbie shooting question

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nmondal wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:38 am Sad day for India...
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Sad day for this target paper! What target are you using, 'cuz that paper totally sucks.

Now that Kruger is gone; what is best source for targets?
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Re: Newbie shooting question

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There have been several threads recently about this. There are a couple options:

1) Order direct from Kruger in Germany

2) Order from Cibles in Canada

For more details, use the search feature.
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Re: Newbie shooting question

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I'm not going to re-read this thread to see if I posted it, but Neal Stepp has some excellent Euro targets. Phone him.
nmondal
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Re: Newbie shooting question

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JonPersson wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:36 pm
nmondal wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:04 pm Man, you need to concentrate only for 5 secs. That is it.
Then repeat again.
ADHD does not matter and will not matter.
5 sec of concentration will barely get you started IMHO.
I’d say that for a properly executed shot the time requiring full concentration is about 25-35 seconds.
- 10-15 sec preparation, mental walk through of your shot. A few deep breaths, feeling your stance etc.
5-7sec. Lift and lowering down into aiming area, proper grip, trigger 1st stage etc
5-10 sec. settling in aiming area, squeezing the trigger. The shot breaks
- 2 sec, follow through

Depending on how fast you go through a match there won’t be a whole lot of time to “not concentrate” in between shots.

Skanaker’s strategy was to maintain total concentration for about three shots, then let the mind wander and relax for a little while, then three new shots of total concentration. Mix it up with a few longer breaks (3-5 minutes)
Wow! Had no idea! Thanks.. will follow this!
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Re: Newbie shooting question

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This is today.
Did a bit sight alignment - hence next 20 shots all around centre.

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A LONG way to go. LONG time too.
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Re: Newbie shooting question

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20 shots, today.
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Was not a good day.
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Re: Newbie shooting question

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nmondal wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:36 am 20 shots, today.
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Was not a good day.
Did you launch a pellet into a leg? No? Then it was a good day.
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Re: Newbie shooting question

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Hey, Willie, wasn't this guy from your neck of the woods?

https://www.providencejournal.com/news/ ... ing-in-bed
nmondal
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Re: Newbie shooting question

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william wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:26 pm
nmondal wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:36 am 20 shots, today.
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Was not a good day.
Did you launch a pellet into a leg? No? Then it was a good day.
Droll.. very droll.
:D
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Re: Newbie shooting question

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Rover wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:52 pm Hey, Willie, wasn't this guy from your neck of the woods?

https://www.providencejournal.com/news/ ... ing-in-bed
About three hours south. It was definitely NOT a good day for him.
nmondal
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Re: Newbie shooting question

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Today.

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Changed the trigger position.
Let's see again tomorrow.
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