New Dress Code Interpretation
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Apparently they are ski pants made to look like jeans ??? but without seeing them in person they just look like jeans to me also.
As per what ISSF/IOC is saying, weather they are or not they look like jeans so they should be told not to wear them.
Surely they could just use "normal" ski pants.
Barney
As per what ISSF/IOC is saying, weather they are or not they look like jeans so they should be told not to wear them.
Surely they could just use "normal" ski pants.
Barney
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Koku
It was so very refreshing to hear the talk of the curling commentary team, apparently curling is doing great as a sport for all and sundry (in Canada I'm assuming).
Having fresh thinking like fancy pants etc shows how change can work. The ISSF with it's continued clamping down creates the impression of a clinical, cold, lifeless org.
Not sure if this has been seen yet:
http://www.issf-sports.org/news/top_current_news.ashx
Some specific mentions of the seat patch reinforcement etc.
Having fresh thinking like fancy pants etc shows how change can work. The ISSF with it's continued clamping down creates the impression of a clinical, cold, lifeless org.
Not sure if this has been seen yet:
http://www.issf-sports.org/news/top_current_news.ashx
Some specific mentions of the seat patch reinforcement etc.
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David Levene
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Here and here.Koku wrote:Not sure if this has been seen yet:
http://www.issf-sports.org/news/top_current_news.ashx
Some specific mentions of the seat patch reinforcement etc.
Thank god I'm not a good enough shooter to be bothered by all that crap. Shuddering to think what would happen if I were a 580+ shooter and some overweight guy in a suit tried to make change my clothes... I acknowledge that the olympic status of sports shooting is essential in some countries to keep it legal, but sometimes I wonder if it attracts the wrong kind of apparatchiks at the top, and if we wouldn't be better off without that bunch of would-be-TV-superstars.
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David Levene
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Don't blame the range staff or Jury members if they are just applying the rules and official interpretations.Tycho wrote:Shuddering to think what would happen if I were a 580+ shooter and some overweight guy in a suit tried to make change my clothes...
If one person is breaking the rules then the range staff have a responsibility to every other shooter on the line who is complying with the rules.
As I've posted several times however there is nothing to stop the organisers of matches, other than ISSF Supervised ones, saying that the dress code interpretations will not be applied.
My club, for example, has issued the following addition to our competition rules:-
"In February 2010 the ISSF issued a “Dress Code”; an interpretation of the existing rules. That interpretation will not be applied at BPC meetings or matches."
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Lima
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... -gold.html
"One player, Rebecca Johnston, even tried to drive the ice-resurfacing machine."
Nice. The benefits of not being funded I guess.
"One player, Rebecca Johnston, even tried to drive the ice-resurfacing machine."
Nice. The benefits of not being funded I guess.
The problem is also a legal problem. The ISSF executive committe (13 members) went overboard in its zeal. It gave an opinion which is no longer a (licit) interpretation and clarification of an existing rule - the purpose and limitation of any interpretative attempt -, but which actually is a totally new rulemaking.
The committee did not have the statutory competence to do so (nor did it observe the procedure prescribed thereby), and its exceeding interpretation therefore is simply invalid and legally not binding for the athletes. Only the administrative council (37 members) could do this.
As to quote the ISSF themselves, in another but parallel context:
If (!) the ISSF wanted to competely break with existing longtime practice and with the common and hitherto considered proper sportive usage, and wanted henceforth decide to forbid the wearing of blue jeans and/or shorts in hot climates during competition, they might possibly do so, but they would have to enact a new and proper rule in the rulebook explicitly forbidding this. This has not been done, and it cannot be substituted through a mere "interpretation" ultra vires.
Some animadversions have missed the point, because they mixed two very different situations in his conspect: the actual competition, and the later ceremony. The ceremony can be a lot tighter regulated.
The committee did not have the statutory competence to do so (nor did it observe the procedure prescribed thereby), and its exceeding interpretation therefore is simply invalid and legally not binding for the athletes. Only the administrative council (37 members) could do this.
As to quote the ISSF themselves, in another but parallel context:
ISSF Rules do not change until the ISSF Administrative Council approves changes and nothing in those minutes has been approved.
If (!) the ISSF wanted to competely break with existing longtime practice and with the common and hitherto considered proper sportive usage, and wanted henceforth decide to forbid the wearing of blue jeans and/or shorts in hot climates during competition, they might possibly do so, but they would have to enact a new and proper rule in the rulebook explicitly forbidding this. This has not been done, and it cannot be substituted through a mere "interpretation" ultra vires.
Some animadversions have missed the point, because they mixed two very different situations in his conspect: the actual competition, and the later ceremony. The ceremony can be a lot tighter regulated.
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David Levene
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The ISSF have issued a slightly revised version of the Dress Code.
The only difference I have noted is the addition of point 10 (but there may be others).
How dare they insinuate that range staff and jury members would ever be anything other than immaculately dressed (only joking).
The only difference I have noted is the addition of point 10 (but there may be others).
How dare they insinuate that range staff and jury members would ever be anything other than immaculately dressed (only joking).
Can't we just start there? This is where an enforcement of a proper sports spirits clothing code is certainly MOST needed! :-Pjhmartin wrote:Point 12 will be for spectators on the other side of the 'tube
Alexander
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mikeschroeder
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Someone must be reading this forum and updating the 'interpretations' live - hopefully not so live though that Mickey makes it in ;)David Levene wrote:The ISSF have issued a slightly revised version of the Dress Code.
The only difference I have noted is the addition of point 10 (but there may be others).
How dare they insinuate that range staff and jury members would ever be anything other than immaculately dressed (only joking).
Rob.