electronic target vs paper target

[siordian1]

We finally got electronic targets at Phx. Rod and Gun. We had the old paper system for years. I have shot on it twice, both times with lower scores than my usual paper target scores. Is that normal? I know it's me, but not sure what it is. The background in the sight picture is much brighter. Just wondering if others have had the same issues. Thanks.

[Gwhite]

Electronic targets are typically WAY brighter than the paper target light levels in a lot of ranges. That could definitely throw you off. I actually put a filter lens on my shooting glasses to dim things down a bit when I shoot electronic targets.

The other possibility I can think of is the pacing of things. Paper targets naturally interrupt your shooting periodically. With electronic targets, you can just keep popping away for 60 shots without a break. You may need to pace yourself a bit, at least until you get used to them.

[Rover]

Big S, are you the one responsible for their installation?

[j-team]

We finally got electronic targets at Phx. Rod and Gun. We had the old paper system for years. I have shot on it twice, both times with lower scores than my usual paper target scores. Is that normal? I know it's me, but not sure what it is. The background in the sight picture is much brighter. Just wondering if others have had the same issues. Thanks.

Most of them have adjustable brightness, try adjusting the light a bit "dimmer". Rifle shooters seem to like the targets so bright it hurts, whereas pistol shooters prefer a bit less light on the targets and some light at the firing point so we can see our sights.

[marvel22]

Roger,

Eugene finally got the board to spend 5k. He made up some mounting frames out of 2x4 boards. They work great. I just have to get used to them.

[Azmodan]

what brand of EST did you get?

[siordian1]

I will need to take a look and let you know.

[javaduke]

What we got is the InBand Air: https://inband.fi/?page_id=116
They work great most of the time, there are still some quirks and wrinkles, mostly due to the fact that the software could use some improvements, plus it runs on cheap Windows tables - and we all know how "great" Windows is. But all this can and will be worked out. overall I'm very happy with these targets.

The brightness can be adjusted in the software, plus we will need to do something about our ceiling lights because they all have different color temperatures :)))

[PirateJohn]

How much does the system cost? I've been considering investing in an electronic system.

[Gwhite]

https://inband.fi/?p=2438

[javaduke]

We paid about $930 USD per unit but the shipping to US was obviously very expensive. We ended up with about $6k total for 5 targets, not including computers, stands and power supply units.

[Ramon OP]

I wrote a review of the Inband Air: https://www.olympicpistol.com/inband-ai ... et-review/ It used to be priced about €1000. You will have to buy or make a pellet stopper too.

@javaduke Which tablets do you run it in?

I use a virtualized W10 on a Linux Host with VirtualBox.

[FWB_700_Alu]

My Meyton came on Monday and just set it up. €2,900 is worth every cent. I was using paper for years and was not liking to walk to change targets every 10 shots.

[Gwhite]

For a long time now, I've been thinking of designing a cheap target changer. The idea would be that you have a stack of targets above the aiming area, and a basket underneath. A solenoid would actuate a mechanism that would drop the last target fired into the basket, and drop the next clean one into place. It's still paper, and still manual scoring, but it saves all the stopping & walking to change targets.

[KDZ]

For a long time now, I've been thinking of designing a cheap target changer. The idea would be that you have a stack of targets above the aiming area, and a basket underneath. A solenoid would actuate a mechanism that would drop the last target fired into the basket, and drop the next clean one into place. It's still paper, and still manual scoring, but it saves all the stopping & walking to change targets.

Great idea! My home-built AP target holder uses two slotted vertical sheet metal rails to hold the targets, with a plywood stop at the bottom. The slots are about 5mm wide, so targets are held in place but easily drop in and come out from the top (manually). It should be simple to use a solenoid-activated post below to hold and release shot targets, but the feeding mechanism could be trickier. Maybe cannibalizing the feeding device from an old printer?

[m1963]

For a long time now, I've been thinking of designing a cheap target changer. The idea would be that you have a stack of targets above the aiming area, and a basket underneath. A solenoid would actuate a mechanism that would drop the last target fired into the basket, and drop the next clean one into place. It's still paper, and still manual scoring, but it saves all the stopping & walking to change targets.

Gehman sells one...

https://gehmann.com/en/195-Remote-contr ... 3FCB1D6E3D

[Gwhite]

They may make one, but "sell" is tricky. I tried to find a price, and came up empty. It looks very nice, but it also looks like serious German over-engineered steel (presumably with an internal pellet trap). My idea was something that would hold about 15 targets, and hang in front of a separate (cheap) pellet trap. The mechanism would be mostly wire frames to hold & catch the targets and 3D printed plastic bits.

[m1963]

We have the target carriers. We purchased them from Neal Stepp at ISS, in 2015. He is a dealer for Gehman. And you are right, they are very good quality and will last a lifetime.

https://gehmann.com/en/182-Electronic-t ... 678F9DBD15