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Pistol targets click chart

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Hi,

I've made a chart to make it easier for new pistol shooters to understand how many clicks they have to give to correct their groups https://www.olympicpistol.com/how-to-cl ... tructions/.

I still have nightmares of one of my first days shooting when an initiator asked me how many clicks I had to make wit each knob considering that I was x away to one side and y away in hight considering that each click of my pistol was 1.4mm...

The chart goes together with the guide that includes the elevation and windage settings for all (or almost all) competition air pistols https://www.olympicpistol.com/universal ... heatsheet/.

I'm working on making some starter friendly useful videos and articles beyond the more advanced training plans. An example could be this video of how to fill the air cylinder with an air tank https://youtu.be/qiKltH_hJnk

If you have any ideas of things that you or the pistol shooters under you struggle with more commonly please add them as a comment so that I can pool them in my to do list.

Hope you find these useful :)
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I would probably also include the center - outer ten on the chart. Somehow reasoning about the inner ten ring never enters my mind. You don't really go "so I have to do one click to get to the inner ten and another 2 to get to the center".

On 10m targets I usually just go by 0.2 score rings are about one click. And don't do the detour via mm or some other unit.
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Thanks @Grippy.

My pistol has 2mm clicks, very easy for counting :) https://www.olympicpistol.com/feinwerkb ... ol-review/ My rule of thumb is 6 or 7 clicks with the air pistols I don't know for each ring.
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Thanks for explaining the "bei". My Steyr sight adjustment direction has never made sense before. Now it does.
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Grippy
Every tenth of a ring on an ISSF Air Pistol target is about 0.8mm no matter which ring you are in.
Practically, that means it is the same number of clicks to move from the 9.0 to 9.9 as to move from 10.0 to 10.9
LOTS of really good shooters don't know that and/or struggle to apply it on their own targets!
FYI, I think all ISSF targets use that same principle too.
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With iron sights, and scopes, we instruct everyone we train to intentionally overcorrect with the first adjustment (while being sure to count the clicks).

This helps the shooter to visibly see what the correction they made did to the point of impact on the target.

Each subsequent change in the sights is smaller, aimed at a precision finish. This because the majority of shooters cannot discern what a click or two of their sights did to the results on the target, and can become frustrated chasing perfection.

The quickly observable results, caused by the overcorrection, make the process easier. Also, no charts needed.

Best regards,
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Each pellet hole is about 5mm ( pellet size 4.5mm)

So I would do a quick and dirty count of how many pellets am I away.

Once I guesstimate my pellet holes away, then it is approximately 4 clicks (1.2mm per click) each hole for my Steyr, 2 clicks (2.6mm per click) each hole for my IZH
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Ramon OP wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:45 am Hi,

I've made a chart to make it easier for new pistol shooters to understand how many clicks they have to give to correct their groups https://www.olympicpistol.com/how-to-cl ... tructions/.

I still have nightmares of one of my first days shooting when an initiator asked me how many clicks I had to make wit each knob considering that I was x away to one side and y away in hight considering that each click of my pistol was 1.4mm...

The chart goes together with the guide that includes the elevation and windage settings for all (or almost all) competition air pistols https://www.olympicpistol.com/universal ... heatsheet/.

I'm working on making some starter friendly useful videos and articles beyond the more advanced training plans. An example could be this video of how to fill the air cylinder with an air tank https://youtu.be/qiKltH_hJnk

If you have any ideas of things that you or the pistol shooters under you struggle with more commonly please add them as a comment so that I can pool them in my to do list.

Hope you find these useful :)

This a useful chart. Thanks for sharing
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Ramon OP wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:45 am Hi,

I've made a chart to make it easier for new pistol shooters to understand how many clicks they have to give to correct their groups https://www.olympicpistol.com/how-to-cl ... tructions/.

I still have nightmares of one of my first days shooting when an initiator asked me how many clicks I had to make wit each knob considering that I was x away to one side and y away in hight considering that each click of my pistol was 1.4mm...

The chart goes together with the guide that includes the elevation and windage settings for all (or almost all) competition air pistols https://www.olympicpistol.com/universal ... heatsheet/.

I'm working on making some starter friendly useful videos and articles beyond the more advanced training plans. An example could be this video of how to fill the air cylinder with an air tank https://youtu.be/qiKltH_hJnk

If you have any ideas of things that you or the pistol shooters under you struggle with more commonly please add them as a comment so that I can pool them in my to do list.

Hope you find these useful :)
Thank you for that Ramon: is there nothing for the Gamo Compact?
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I have some constructive feedback for your document (which I think is great, BTW)

In your document - how-to-click-a-pistol-issf-windage-and-elevation-sighting-instructions
Section - Changing from precision to rapid fire pistol targets

You state "ISSF pistol shooters aim at 6 o’clock on precision targets and in the center on 25 m rapid fire pistol targets (most keep a 6 o’clock aim for rapid fire air pistol too)."

To a new user without an aid of reference, this statement is ambiguous and unclear. There is no clear definition of origin. I would suggest adding a pictorial aiming reference to clarify visually a starting origin to begin adjustments from.

As this is is in fact "Origin" and required to correctly interpret the rest of the document, I would also suggest placing this near the top of the document instead of in the middle.

I have created 3 documents (they are copyright free, you are welcome to use them as you choose) to illustrate 6 o'clock, sub 6 and center holds.
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Steevyg wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 4:56 pm Thank you for that Ramon: is there nothing for the Gamo Compact?
I have not found it in their manual nor with an online search.
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mojoatomic wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:11 pm I have some constructive feedback for your document (which I think is great, BTW)

In your document - how-to-click-a-pistol-issf-windage-and-elevation-sighting-instructions
Section - Changing from precision to rapid fire pistol targets

You state "ISSF pistol shooters aim at 6 o’clock on precision targets and in the center on 25 m rapid fire pistol targets (most keep a 6 o’clock aim for rapid fire air pistol too)."

To a new user without an aid of reference, this statement is ambiguous and unclear. There is no clear definition of origin. I would suggest adding a pictorial aiming reference to clarify visually a starting origin to begin adjustments from.

As this is is in fact "Origin" and required to correctly interpret the rest of the document, I would also suggest placing this near the top of the document instead of in the middle.

I have created 3 documents (they are copyright free, you are welcome to use them as you choose) to illustrate 6 o'clock, sub 6 and center holds.
Thank you @mojoatomic. I'll see how to explain this better.
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Ramon OP wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 8:29 am
Steevyg wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 4:56 pm Thank you for that Ramon: is there nothing for the Gamo Compact?
I have not found it in their manual nor with an online search.
Thanks for looking Ramon.
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