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Re: Why do Olympic air gun shooters grip their guns so awkwardly?

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:29 pm
by PirateJohn
Maybe post this in the rifle board and not the pistol board.

Re: Why do Olympic air gun shooters grip their guns so awkwardly?

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:13 pm
by Vadym
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Re: Why do Olympic air gun shooters grip their guns so awkwardly?

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:04 am
by seamaster
He is shooting pistol as if shooting a rifle, cheek to the butt plate. Why don’t you try it out. You might like it enough to be your preferred hold. Make sure your eyes are looking straight forward though, not canted. Pistol UP to your eye sight, not eyes sight down to pistol line.

Re: Why do Olympic air gun shooters grip their guns so awkwardly?

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:29 am
by Steevyg
Looks like he’s stabilising his shoulder with his cheek!

Re: Why do Olympic air gun shooters grip their guns so awkwardly?

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:39 am
by -TT-
That's a free pistol, not an airgun. Free pistols are basically tiny rifles, and this makes perfect sense. It's problematic for rapidfire maybe.

Grip the way it works for you. Just remember, very few of us are 20 year old olympians. :)

Re: Why do Olympic air gun shooters grip their guns so awkwardly?

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:09 am
by Vadym
-TT- wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:39 am That's a free pistol, not an airgun. Free pistols are basically tiny rifles, and this makes perfect sense. It's problematic for rapidfire maybe.
Oh, really? Let's look closer
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Re: Why do Olympic air gun shooters grip their guns so awkwardly?

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:42 pm
by william
The more you can rely on bones, cartilage & ligament; the less on muscles & tendons, the better.

Of course if somebody is just looking for an argument, perhaps we can examine "What color is the sky?"

Re: Why do Olympic air gun shooters grip their guns so awkwardly?

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:23 pm
by PirateJohn
That bottom picture looks like somebody assembled his body parts wrong

Re: Why do Olympic air gun shooters grip their guns so awkwardly?

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:40 pm
by william
PirateJohn wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:23 pm That bottom picture looks like somebody assembled his body parts wrong
I'm sure the Ukrainian team doctors are reassembling his elbow at this very moment. Wouldn't want good performance to get in the way of good looks, would we?

Re: Why do Olympic air gun shooters grip their guns so awkwardly?

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:05 pm
by sparky
william wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:42 pm The more you can rely on bones, cartilage & ligament; the less on muscles & tendons, the better.

Of course if somebody is just looking for an argument, perhaps we can examine "What color is the sky?"
Which makes sense, but when I tried raising my shoulder to my cheek, I found that I was using a lot more muscle that I had to keep tense to hold my arm up in place that high. My shoulder would tire out much quicker than simply holding it out. Holding my arm out with out raising it seems to result in much less tension for me.

Re: Why do Olympic air gun shooters grip their guns so awkwardly?

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 4:37 pm
by High Left
I've seen a US team shooter using a position like that. Looks incredibly awkward, and painful, but if you're young enough to manage it ...

Probably not reasonable with a 45? So those of us that want to shoot both disciplines, 'pistol shooting', and Neanderthal rock throwing, there's got to be a compromise.

Re: Why do Olympic air gun shooters grip their guns so awkwardly?

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:07 pm
by Xman
High Left wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 4:37 pm I've seen a US team shooter using a position like that. Looks incredibly awkward, and painful, but if you're young enough to manage it ...

Probably not reasonable with a 45? So those of us that want to shoot both disciplines, 'pistol shooting', and Neanderthal rock throwing, there's got to be a compromise.
Jon Shue 45 pistol champion, the guy with THE beard.

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