How to use an "outward scoring gauge"?

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Jerry LeVan

How to use an "outward scoring gauge"?

Post by Jerry LeVan »

Hi,
Sometime ago I purchased an "outward scoring gauge", tain't clear how to use the rascal!
Here is a common senario, I have a hit that wipes out part of the nine ring and just outboard of that hit I have another hit. Since the first hit has obliterated the section of the nine ring that I would normally visually check to see if the the second shot was a nine how can I use the scoring gauge to determine the proper score?
If I insert the scoring gauge and
1: the back edge of the gauge does not touch the eight ring border, is it a nine?
2: the back edge of the gauge touches the eight ring border, is it a nine?
3: the back edge of the gauge slops over into the seven ring, is it an eight?
Any other comments appreciated.
--Jerry
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Patrick Haynes

Could use a second target underneath.

Post by Patrick Haynes »

Here's what Neal Johnson has to say:
"An outward scoring gauge is the most accurate tool to use to score a paper target. Unfortunately, it is only usable on certain targets and each gauge must be designed for that target. It is the most accurate gauge because it measures against a scoring ring that has not been
disturbed by a bullet hole.
We still get a large number of questions about using the gauge, and it is really very simple. The key is to look at the shot and decide what you are looking for. You can tell immediately if the shot is a close nine or a wide seven. If it is a close shot, put the outward gauge in the hole and look at the outward edge. With an outward scoring gauge, if the gauge is tangent to the outer edge of the scoring ring or closer to the center, the shooter gets the higher value.
You will not see any white when the plug is truly tangent to the scoring ring."
I don't have an outward scoring gauge but this is what I do: put the shot target over an unshot target and verify the line through the hole. Its not a accurate, but in most cases it is fine.
Good shooting.
Patrick
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Patrick

Re: Link to example with Pictures

Post by Patrick »

: Here's what Neal Johnson has to say:
: "An outward scoring gauge is the most accurate tool to use to score a paper target. Unfortunately, it is only usable on certain targets and each gauge must be designed for that target. It is the most accurate gauge because it measures against a scoring ring that has not been
: disturbed by a bullet hole.
: We still get a large number of questions about using the gauge, and it is really very simple. The key is to look at the shot and decide what you are looking for. You can tell immediately if the shot is a close nine or a wide seven. If it is a close shot, put the outward gauge in the hole and look at the outward edge. With an outward scoring gauge, if the gauge is tangent to the outer edge of the scoring ring or closer to the center, the shooter gets the higher value.
: You will not see any white when the plug is truly tangent to the scoring ring."
: I don't have an outward scoring gauge but this is what I do: put the shot target over an unshot target and verify the line through the hole. Its not a accurate, but in most cases it is fine.
: Good shooting.
: Patrick

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Andy Wai

Re: Could use a second target underneath.

Post by Andy Wai »

: I don't have an outward scoring gauge but this is what I do: put the shot target over an unshot target and verify the line through the hole. Its not a accurate, but in most cases it is fine.
Hmm... Outward scoring guage is usually used in competition scoring where each point means a great deal. It works by putting something the same size as the bullet through the target hole to reconstruct the bullet's path. For it to be accurate, you need a complete hole. If you have another shot partly clipping the one your looking it, the guage won't reconstruct the exact path of the bullet and you don't get the right reading.
By the way, using a plug guage on a target enlarges the hole. In a formal competition setting, you can only use a plug guage on a target once. A jury must vote on it and the result is final.
Andy Wai

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Jerry LeVan

Thanks Patrick...

Post by Jerry LeVan »

So I guess the answers to my three questions are yes,yes,yes.
Most of the time I just use the second target underneath technique. I suspect that I might, from time to time, be overly generous in interpolating the missing curve :)
--Jerry
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mark

You do not plug gage multi shot holes!!!! use an overlay gag

Post by mark »

Jerry
With multi holes shots you must use a scoring overlay. This is a clear sheet with the scoring rings in black to lay over the bull( must be the same as the type of target used) you then use a overlay gage of the correct bullet size and aline with the shot hole in question. This will show if the shot hit and ring.
As for using a plug only once It will depend on the rule book you are using. NRA internationl rule books states that you can be pluged more that once but with restrictions, Issf rules are some times different, as are NRA conventional rules. Use the correct rule book for the type of match you are shooting as all are not the same rules.

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Jerry LeVan

Who sells overlay gauges?

Post by Jerry LeVan »

Who sells overlay gauges for Edelmann AP targets?
--Jerry
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Al Dart

Re: Who sells overlay gauges?

Post by Al Dart »

The NRA sells an international overlay and skid gauge that has a .177 circle on it. It does not have an image of the target rings. If you are using Edleman targets, you should easily be able to score 10 shots(in practice) with the Air Pistol plug (unless you are piling them in one on top of another) and using an unfired target behind the fired one to recreat the rings. If it is a competition you are trying to score, simply reduce the number of shots per target. Five per is easily scored, 3 per is easier yet, and 1 per leaves no doubt.
Al
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Philip

Re: Who sells overlay gauges?

Post by Philip »

Please follow the link below:
info-at-precision-sports.com.42512.42476
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