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Revolver purists will NOT like this.

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:22 am
by SlartyBartFast
When I was down in the USA for a 2700, I let a couple of the people there shoot my Chiappa Rhino 60DS (I had brought it along, but didn't use it in competition). The looks on their faces while shooting it were priceless.

One of the shooters is quite accomplished with a revolver, and befuddled is probably the best description of his look. He described the trigger as quite good and the recoil as "Not wrong, but strangely and unexpectedly different."

He and the match director then proceeded to have a discussion if it would even be allowed in DR.

Now it seems that Chiappa is taking the idea of revolver competition seriously.

https://www.chiappafirearms.com/product.php?id=557

Seems to be put together by a British company that makes a 120DS long gun version. That is a 12" barrel and extension under the grip to meet British long pistol rules.

So the grips are supposedly available, the front shroud is custom so that the Aristocrat sight rail can be installed.

Looking to get the grips for my Rhino. Would be nice to have a way to mount the rail on the standard 60DS.

And I don't know what differentiates the .38 spl version from the .357 standard version.

Re: Revolver purists will NOT like this.

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:39 am
by Shooterer

Re: Revolver purists will NOT like this.

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:24 pm
by william
I thought it looked like a MaTeBa. Clever design with really superb fit & finish. Pity I never bought one when they were in production.

A little research (you don't need me to provide links) will show that to be correct. I'll bet Rover's last nickel Chiappa found ways to cheapen it just as they did with the FAS 604.

Re: Revolver purists will NOT like this.

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 1:20 am
by David M
Great concept but it cannot be used for ISSF with such a low barrel line.
ISSF rules...
"Pistol Configuration, 8.4.3.1.b and drawing 8.13
The center line of the bore must pass above the web
(between thumb and forefinger) of the hand holding
the pistol in the normal firing position."

Re: Revolver purists will NOT like this.

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:25 pm
by Azmodan
william wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:24 pm I thought it looked like a MaTeBa. Clever design with really superb fit & finish. Pity I never bought one when they were in production.

mateba has resumed production a few months ago: https://www.facebook.com/matebafactory/

Re: Revolver purists will NOT like this.

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:22 pm
by Leon
I'd really like to have a Rhino in the plasma vapor finish. I think it looks spectacular -

Re: Revolver purists will NOT like this.

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:02 am
by SlartyBartFast
william wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:24 pmI'll bet Rover's last nickel Chiappa found ways to cheapen it just as they did with the FAS 604.
Can't speak for the 604, but the Rhino is excellent. Love mine.
Trying to get my hands on the competition grips for it.

Re: Revolver purists will NOT like this.

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:07 am
by SlartyBartFast
David M wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 1:20 am Great concept but it cannot be used for ISSF with such a low barrel line.
ISSF rules...
"Pistol Configuration, 8.4.3.1.b and drawing 8.13
The center line of the bore must pass above the web
(between thumb and forefinger) of the hand holding
the pistol in the normal firing position."
Who's going to care about revolver legality for ISSF? Are there any ISSF disciplines that would use a revolver?
Place you'd might use the Chiappa would be for DR in NRA/CMP.

Re: Revolver purists will NOT like this.

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:10 am
by renzo
SlartyBartFast wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:07 am
David M wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 1:20 am Great concept but it cannot be used for ISSF with such a low barrel line.
ISSF rules...
"Pistol Configuration, 8.4.3.1.b and drawing 8.13
The center line of the bore must pass above the web
(between thumb and forefinger) of the hand holding
the pistol in the normal firing position."
Who's going to care about revolver legality for ISSF? Are there any ISSF disciplines that would use a revolver?
Place you'd might use the Chiappa would be for DR in NRA/CMP.
Yes, Center Fire.

And if you doubt it, check which firearm was Mikhail Nestruev using when he set the current WR: a revolver!!!!

Re: Revolver purists will NOT like this.

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:00 pm
by David Levene
renzo wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:10 am
And if you doubt it, check which firearm was Mikhail Nestruev using when he set the current WR: a revolver!!!!
You're a bit out of date Renzo. Christian Reitz has held the record at 595 since 2015.

Re: Revolver purists will NOT like this.

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:29 pm
by renzo
David, I stand corrected.

But would have bet the farm (and lost) that those 594 were still top!!!!

Re: Revolver purists will NOT like this.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:22 am
by SlartyBartFast
renzo wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:10 am
SlartyBartFast wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:07 am Who's going to care about revolver legality for ISSF? Are there any ISSF disciplines that would use a revolver?
Place you'd might use the Chiappa would be for DR in NRA/CMP.
Yes, Center Fire.

And if you doubt it, check which firearm was Mikhail Nestruev using when he set the current WR: a revolver!!!!
Same is often said in bullseye. WIth a few diehards shooting revolvers in .22, centerfire, and 45.
But realistically, if you're going to put in all that work to master a pistol would you try for a WR or serious ISSF competition with a revolver?

Now, all that being said if the current stable of euro CF guns doesn't float your boat in terms of different, maybe try a Laugo Arms Alien and shoot full power 9mm instead of .32long.

Re: Revolver purists will NOT like this.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:50 pm
by renzo
Slarty:

As I remember David Levene saying, the ISSF CF course are 60 single shots, so using a revolver (not taking into account the higher line of sight) is no bother.

I have a S & W model 19 with patridge sights, and and I don't think putting 2.000 Euro over it for a pardini will do better for me than throwing the 2.000 Euro in primers, powder and lead.

Also, I'm not getting any younger and the ease of emptying the cylinder on the table instead of stooping all around the range and arguing with other shooters over ownership of a case is defining for me :) ;) :)

Anyway, use what you like the more; almost all of us here are anything but overgrown chidren with costly toys.......................

Best regards from Argentina

Re: Revolver purists will LOVE these.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:48 am
by David M
Revolver for ISSF factory grip
or with KN grip.
Manurhin MR73 in .38 Special
Revolver_MANURHIN_MR38_Match.jpg

Re: Revolver purists will NOT like this.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:34 pm
by renzo
They are beautiful!!!