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Pellet performance vs cost

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:00 pm
by TonyT
I learned a very expensivde lesson today which I would like to share.

A local gunshop owner was an Olympic hopeful in International Rapid Fire event. During my last visit I had my Steyr LP-5 with me and he commented how it was used by the participants at the Olympic Training Center for indoor practise of IRF. I metioned that I had purchased an EVO-10 as I found flyers in 5 shot groups. He challenged my assumption that it was either the gun or the pellet.

He stated that at the OTC they shot inexpensive pellets out of LP-5's and did not notice any significant performance difference between the inexpensive and expensive pellets. Noticing the look on my face he quickly set up a target at 50 ft. put the LP-5 in a padded vice and had me shoot a 5 shot group with RWS Hobby pellets - one perfectly round hole the diameter of a pellet.

Lesson learned. Problem was the operator not the machine !

Re: Pellet performance vs cost

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:34 pm
by trev
So all you need is a vice like grip.

Re: Pellet performance vs cost

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:55 pm
by Rover
Too painful.

Re: Pellet performance vs cost

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:53 pm
by Tony C.
You just wait, another one will come along soon and ask "what make; size; weight, pellet is BEST for my AP? "

Re: Pellet performance vs cost

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:12 pm
by TonyT
trev wrote:So all you need is a vice like grip.
That I do.

You kmow that the latest set of golf clubs will improve ones game so by analogy the newest/greatest AP will do the same for my scores?

Re: Pellet performance vs cost

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:15 pm
by Rover
Here's a post that will answer all your pellet questions....

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=52250

Re: Pellet performance vs cost

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:53 am
by d-cuttler
I recently switched to the Crosman 7.4 grain wadcutters in the bulk milk cartons. Less than a penny per shot, and they group better than I can shoot in all 5 of my airguns.

I will never be in the Olympics, so why waste my money on more expensive pellets. If I ever get better than my cheap pellets, I may revisit this issue.

Re: Pellet performance vs cost

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:02 am
by sillymike
d-cuttler wrote:
I will never be in the Olympics, so why waste my money on more expensive pellets. If I ever get better than my cheap pellets, I may revisit this issue.
Same here, did a few test with the air rifle and pistol, no noticeable difference in Group size between H&N Sport VS Final Match at 10M, had similar results with RWS Hobby VS Meisterkuglen... So I use H&N Hobby, they are relatively inexpensive and easy to get by the sleeve.

This been said, if/when I'm driving to a match, I'll still switch Final Match... just for that added peace of mind ;-)

Re: Pellet performance vs cost

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:08 pm
by Wynne G Oldman
Has anyone tried these yet? https://www.jsramsbottom.com/products/p ... 0-tin.html I think that I'm going to try them when I have run out of Geco's. I bet that they shoot better than I do!

Re: Pellet performance vs cost

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:24 pm
by ChipEck
Wynne G Oldman wrote: Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:08 pm Has anyone tried these yet? https://www.jsramsbottom.com/products/p ... 0-tin.html I think that I'm going to try them when I have run out of Geco's. I bet that they shoot better than I do!
Those are the pellets I give out for shooters at our air pistol matches. Last year Mens senior second place was won by someone shooting these pellets.

Chip

Re: Pellet performance vs cost

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:44 pm
by m1963
Hello-

When shooting my Morini 162EI, I find that RWS Hobby pellets work best, of all. I belive it has something to do with the widely flared skirt. No real evidence. I can say, though, I have tried every pellet available from a reputable manufacturer, and the Hobby's work the best, for the money.

Kind regards,
m1963

Re: Pellet performance vs cost

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:26 pm
by wasatch
The Excite Econ (linked above) are some of the worst performing pellets i tested.
http://www.targettalk.org/viewtopic.php ... n&start=20

Re: Pellet performance vs cost

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:21 pm
by Wynne G Oldman
wasatch wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:26 pm The Excite Econ (linked above) are some of the worst performing pellets i tested.
http://www.targettalk.org/viewtopic.php ... n&start=20
Thanks for that. I won't bother with them then. Don't want my scores to get any worse than they already are. :)

Re: Pellet performance vs cost

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:45 am
by kevinweiho
Wynne G Oldman wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:21 pm
wasatch wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:26 pm The Excite Econ (linked above) are some of the worst performing pellets i tested.
http://www.targettalk.org/viewtopic.php ... n&start=20
Thanks for that. I won't bother with them then. Don't want my scores to get any worse than they already are. :)
Remember that airpistols of the same make and model (each barrel rifling is unique) may show different accuracy results, try a tin and see if YOUR pistol likes them or not.

Re: Pellet performance vs cost

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:55 am
by Rover
I was given H&N Finale Match heavy pellets. I tested them in my LP1 and the groups were CRAP (I was getting exceptional accuracy with Basics at the time). I figured, "what the hell." and cranked up the gun to "11." Great accuracy!

Go figure.

Re: Pellet performance vs cost

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:51 pm
by wasatch
Here's a possibly good deal on RWS R10 (likely rifle weight) pellets: http://www.10pt9.com/ammunition/10-9-cl ... 1000-count

Re: Pellet performance vs cost

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:00 pm
by Rover
I would go for this deal if I weren't so enamored of cheaper RWS Basics.

Unfortunately, the business has gone tits up.

Re: Pellet performance vs cost

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:28 am
by spektr
I am shooting these now and they work great. I wish Vogel Oranges were still available.

Re: Pellet performance vs cost

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:52 am
by Lenny
I shot RWS basics last year and didn't like lead glitter (tiny lead chips) they were leaving all over.The price was good and they shot ok from what I can tell. They certainly didn't hold me back, but they were too messy to use. I am shooting RWS Musterkugelen this year. Will switch to R10's as I get close to my yearly sectional match. Air pistol is my secondary interest, which I shoot during highpower rifle off-season.

Re: Pellet performance vs cost

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 3:59 pm
by Azmodan
i tested the pellets weight variations in a single box - multiple brands

https://youtu.be/-cRiF3AgzaY

video is in Romanian, but there are English captions - and the result tables are in universal Excel language :)