TargetTalk

I have been training for the past few months in the 25 metre pistol shooting
I started with a Ruger MK3 then got a Benelli mp90
About 3.5 months ago
My shooting has got a lot better since.
However I've only been shooting in precision (not timed)only
Just trying to concentrate on position,lift,aim,shoot etc...
I did started to shoot a few rounds within a short time
I know that the score is based on 600 pts
But I'm trying to figure out where I stand at this moment
Am I doing good? Am I doing really good? Or am I just like average Joe?
So I like to know from those who has more experience than me
What do you consider a good score?
What would be average?
Any feedback would be great

So the next time my good friend asks me how am I doing with my shooting,I won't have to say...well...huh....I don't know!
I'm sure I still have a long way to go!
Thanks
Jerry

You suck!

If you keep telling yourself that and continue to try to remedy that failing with constant training, maybe, just maybe, you won't suck.

Works for me.

Maybe an Australian grading list will be of interest:

http://www.pistol.org.au/_literature_63 ... eak_Scores

USA scores can be found here:
http://www.usashooting.org/membership/a ... 0623111011

Last World Champs (2014 Grenada) the winning score was 581 16x.

Results in full:

http://www.issf-sports.org/competitions ... 00.1.STP.0

Rover wrote:You suck!

If you keep telling yourself that and continue to try to remedy that failing with constant training, maybe, just maybe, you won't suck.

Works for me.

So you suck too?

Thank Sam
Now I get a better picture of where I stand

Whitch it's not bad! Lol

Well, I know two or three that don't.

How about you?

Rover wrote:Well, I know two or three that don't.

How about you?

Not sure what you are trying to say
But as far as me I don't think I m doing bad
Not great! But not bad

In the immortal words of George Carlin, "I've been working on accepting my inner scumbag."

Ah-ha, that is the final step:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model

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As for Standard Pistol, it is a tricky beast. Lots of interesting things written about it over the years; personally I think minimising mistakes, and picking up a lot of points in precision is a strong place to start.

10s series is kind of weird. Requires horrendously smooth trigger release, but with a certain looseness (dogma and/or blind faith) in the sights. It is a curious and interesting match.

SamEEE wrote:As for Standard Pistol, it is a tricky beast. Lots of interesting things written about it over the years; personally I think minimising mistakes, and picking up a lot of points in precision is a strong place to start.

Shooting good scores at Standard Pistol is easy.

Shoot brilliant 150s, fantastic 20s and don't muck up the 10s.

Standard Pistol can be a love/hate match, some love it, some hate it but it is a very
good trigger control match.
Break down of a good score is 190/195 for 150's, 185/190 for 20's and 180/185 in 10's
giving you a 565-570 result.
However most people are OK in 150's, rush the 20's in about 12 sec and jag the 10's
in about 6 sec.
A good Standard shooter will shoot any match well.

If you can master standard you can master anything thereafter relatively easily.
Even if you can't, like me, its still the best all-round training.
As a beginner I set myself the objective of consistently shooting above 540 in open shoots, and achieved it reasonably consistently for a while.
540=9 average, which is more realistic than trying for a 10 average. Keep them in the 9 and the 10s will happen by probability.

David Levene wrote:Shoot brilliant 150s, fantastic 20s and don't muck up the 10s.

A simple and very elegant way of describing the match!

Don't shoot the 20 second strings too fast (most people do). 20 seconds is longer than you think.

If you want to train for Standard Pistol, put your efforts into practicing the 20 second strings; get really good at that, and then just do it faster! The match is generally won or lost during the 20 & 10 second sections, not the 150 second section. However when training, force yourself to pause (at least 1 minute) before reloading to shoot the next rapid string. It is very easy to get yourself a rapid-fire "zone" (i.e. five shots - immediate reload - five shots - immediate reload - five shots - immediate reload etc ) where you start to get into a rhythm and begin shooting some great 20 / 10 second strings. The problem is that actual matches don't work like that.

I noticed that new shooters (or at least those who are new to the Standard Pistol match) will regularly shoot better 20 second strings than 150 second strings. With not enough time to over-think what they are doing, as long as they are aware of the fundamentals, their brain & body go into auto-pilot and everything falls into place.

Some years ago I spent time training just 10's and shot the entire match in 10's runs.
My scores were about the same as normal but the 10's timing really put off a lot of other
shooters.
20's is a difficult time series mainly for breathing, you cannot shoot it with only one
breath and use all 20's. You need to have a mini breath in the series at some point,
maybe even two little breaths.
ie shoot 3 shots, small breath then shoot 2 shots.
Some years ago I spent time training rapidfire and 10's standard.
I then shot the entire match in 10's runs averaging 94-95.
My scores were about the same as normal timing but the 10's timing really put off
a lot of other shooters in the detail.