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Aiming point for International Centerfire

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:02 pm
by Jodykid
Hi, Guys. I've got a question for you international Centerfire shooters. Is your aim point the same for the B19 and B38 targets (possibly center hold) or do you use six o'clock on B19 and change sights for B38 or what?

I've tried six on the 19 and guessed lower mid on the 38 and I've tried center hold on both and with my eye problems the front sight gets lost in the black.

What's the consensus?

Joe

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:30 pm
by Rover
It's a problem. I decided not to fool around and do something stupid, so I use a center hold for this game only.

The huge "rapid" 10 counts as much as the slow, small 10.

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:43 pm
by David M
I use area aim (low 6 o'clock) for the precision half, and change sights to a slight low centre hold for rapidfire.
Rapidfire hold area is just low of centreline (line visible) to the bottom of the ten ring.
Adjust the sight in the vertical and depending on gun you may need some horizontal adjustment.

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:53 pm
by David Levene
David M wrote:I use area aim (low 6 o'clock) for the precision half, and change sights to a slight low centre hold for rapidfire.
Rapidfire hold area is just low of centreline (line visible) to the bottom of the ten ring.
That's exactly what I used to do when I shot CF.

For me it was approximately 20-21 clicks on a FAS 603, but maybe that was just due to my perception of the two aiming areas.

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:03 pm
by john bickar
I use center for both.

That said, sight picture and alignment don't matter all that much for center fire, it's a game of trigger control.

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:42 pm
by IPshooter
john bickar wrote:I use center for both.

That said, sight picture and alignment don't matter all that much for center fire, it's a game of trigger control.
Hi John,

I hope you are well.

I'm sure you also use center hold for rapid fire pistol. But, do you also use that same hold for AP?

Stan

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:07 am
by jliston48
David M wrote:I use area aim (low 6 o'clock) for the precision half, and change sights to a slight low centre hold for rapidfire.
Rapidfire hold area is just low of centreline (line visible) to the bottom of the ten ring.
Adjust the sight in the vertical and depending on gun you may need some horizontal adjustment.
Me too - and have been doing so for 35 years.

I tried centre hold for the rapid fire stage but I kept on firing the shot below the 10-ring so in the end, decided not to fight it!

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:50 am
by john bickar
IPshooter wrote:
john bickar wrote:I use center for both.

That said, sight picture and alignment don't matter all that much for center fire, it's a game of trigger control.
Hi John,

I hope you are well.

I'm sure you also use center hold for rapid fire pistol. But, do you also use that same hold for AP?

Stan
Hi Stan,

Yes, but don't neglect the most important part of what I wrote.

I bolded it for your benefit :)

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:54 am
by john bickar
jliston48 wrote:I tried centre hold for the rapid fire stage but I kept on firing the shot below the 10-ring so in the end, decided not to fight it!
Image

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:33 pm
by IPshooter
john bickar wrote:
IPshooter wrote:
john bickar wrote:I use center for both.

That said, sight picture and alignment don't matter all that much for center fire, it's a game of trigger control.
Hi John,

I hope you are well.

I'm sure you also use center hold for rapid fire pistol. But, do you also use that same hold for AP?

Stan
Hi Stan,

Yes, but don't neglect the most important part of what I wrote.

I bolded it for your benefit :)
Thanks, John. I needed that!

BTW, good trigger control means a shot won't go into the ground, just downrange, in the duel portion, right? ;-)

And regarding AP, how in the world do you see black sights against the bull?

Stan

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:20 pm
by john bickar
IPshooter wrote:And regarding AP, how in the world do you see black sights against the bull?
It looks like this:
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Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:50 am
by jliston48
john bickar wrote:
IPshooter wrote:And regarding AP, how in the world do you see black sights against the bull?
It looks like this:
Image
I wish! Sometimes it does - other times it's a black blur!

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:51 am
by jliston48
john bickar wrote:
jliston48 wrote:I tried centre hold for the rapid fire stage but I kept on firing the shot below the 10-ring so in the end, decided not to fight it!
Image
... and that's exactly the tool I used!

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:00 am
by IPshooter
john bickar wrote:
IPshooter wrote:And regarding AP, how in the world do you see black sights against the bull?
It looks like this:
Image
John,

That's an absolutely gorgeous representation, but I have never been able to achieve that perfectly correct image. Not even when my eyes were younger.

Stan

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:32 pm
by john bickar
IPshooter wrote:I have never been able to achieve that perfectly correct image
Stan,

All you have to do to see what I see when I shoot is to scroll up to the image of the sight picture, grab your computer screen, hold it at arms length, and shake vigorously :)

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:33 pm
by john bickar
jliston48 wrote:
john bickar wrote:
jliston48 wrote:I tried centre hold for the rapid fire stage but I kept on firing the shot below the 10-ring so in the end, decided not to fight it!
... and that's exactly the tool I used!
Did you try turning the other direction? ;)

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:19 am
by jliston48
john bickar wrote:
jliston48 wrote:
john bickar wrote:
jliston48 wrote:I tried centre hold for the rapid fire stage but I kept on firing the shot below the 10-ring so in the end, decided not to fight it!
... and that's exactly the tool I used!
Did you try turning the other direction? ;)
NO! The only one I had was a right handed one. Got to wait for next year's pension payment to buy a left handed one. Then the world record attempt is on again!!!

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:39 am
by Rover
When the only tool you have is a hammer, then every job looks like a job for a hammer.

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:08 am
by john bickar
Rover wrote:When the only tool you have is a hammer, then every job looks like a job for a hammer.
That's quite poetic, Mrs. Malaprop.

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:29 am
by Rover
Thank you, John. I knew you'd like it. I got it from a Harley-Davidson mechanic.