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Muffo wrote:That is possibly what it was designed foe but Skanaker won world championships in both air and standard to his trigger control must have been pretty good

RobStubbs wrote:

Muffo wrote:That is possibly what it was designed foe but Skanaker won world championships in both air and standard to his trigger control must have been pretty good

Skanaker was always a very individual shooter and shot in an unorthodox manner. Just because he won lots of stuff, doesn't mean he did everything right.

And also who's to say what triggering method he used ? I don't recall seeing any mention of that method is his book.

Rob.

conradin wrote:Thank you, I actually will now try it the next time I am in the range. My two FPs are set at 5 grams and 15 grams. I think the idea of moving the trigger finger is that if it is stationary until the moment you need to fire, then there may be a potential of jerking. If the finger is already moving, then it is just a matter of pulling back a little back more when you are ready.

David N wrote:

Muffo wrote:...I had said it's interesting how skanaker has used the bump method so well but no body that I know of uses it anymore.

“Sportliches Pistolen-schießen, Ragnar Skanaker, Laslo Antal, 4.aktualisierte und erweiterte Auflage 2001” pages 93 to 95 is possibly where you found it? Between the description of the basics of this triggering technique and the description of Skanåker is a story from the olympics in Montreal 1976. Soviet shooter Dr. Papava used this technique and he was shooting constantly above 570 in traning. But when competition day arrived, his coordination “broke down” because of the pressure from the competition, and he shot a “very bad” 548. “He was never seen again in international competitions ever since”. The author(s) concluded that the technique requires a considerable amount of traning, but also (extraordinary?) strong nerves: Innate talent! According to this book Papava used 3 grams trigger weight, while Skanåker used a “whopping” 5 grams... They do really not suggest “method is really only of benefit to people who haven't got a good trigger control”. On the contrary! You should be prepared for endless amounts of hours and hours of dry firing! (as I understand it, it is in German after all). Could be the reason why you don't see this method very much, Muffo?

The book uses the term “pulsierenden Abzugstechnic” so “pulsate method” might be just as good descripion as the “bump method”? For the “average shooters” they recommend softly increasing the trigger weight instead of this “pulsating method”. Before they go on to describe a combination of the two methods!

It is reasonabe to think of Skanåker that “his trigger control must have been pretty good”. On page 97 Skanåker tells that he was traning 2-3 hours per week like “everybody else” and his FP scores averaged 540-545 before he began training 4-6 hours per day winter 1968. He also recommended that your traning results should (preferably) be above 580 (FP) so that you have reserves when the stress comes in competitions...

My personal conclusion after the above: If you know you have very strong nerves (in competitions settings) or you are very curious about trying something new, try it! Or else spend the time applying pressure softly. My hand shakes like a wet dog in competitions, so it is a no brainer for me.