Finally got my parts for my SSP to change it to left hand Friday just in time for our standard pistol match Saturday, shot a 543. I had shot my S&W 41 the previous two matches and scored 536,537. Even shot my SSP right handed last month because I couldn't stand having a new gun and not shooting it and shot a 503. This is my only experience with international standard pistol. So here are my questions:
Do you guys hold center, six, sub-six? I am holdin sub-six. Some of the guys at my club suggest center but I believe Brian Zins suggest a sub-six for NRA bullseye and there really isn't that much difference in the two disciplines is there?
When the target turns do you look down to the sights and follow the front sight up to your aming point or do you continue looking at the target and just let the sights come up into where you are looking?
Any other things I should know or should be training to do?
On a side note I was wondering what people didn't like about the SSP trigger. Mine seems to be very good. It was at about 1070 grams when I got it and I now have it set at 1020. I tried to get it at about 1010 but could get 1020 or 995 but couldn't get it between so I left it at 1020. It is very crisp with no creep. If you are after a roll type trigger then I could see where it wouldn't be considered good. The first stage is smooth and the weight seems fine to me right now. When i first shot it in rapid fire I wasn't letting my finger off the trigger far enough and it wouldn't fire again but I seem to have gotten over that.
Thanks for your help, Scott
standard pistol ?'s
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For Standard Pistol I shoot sub-six (did try center for a year or so). Center fire/Sport Pistol precision stage I shoot sub-six, duello I shoot center.
I don't look down at the sights I pick them up as I raise. My head stays in position.
All precision events I shoot sub-six.
Glad your liking your SSP, the big thing is to keep it clean. As the pistols get more complicated they become less tolerant of dirt. I clean and lube mine every 500 rounds approx. (every two-three sessions). Make sure you put the rods back into the right holes (I know what happens from experience). The first clue that you have it wrong is that it's difficult to put back together.
Another thing the manual talks about lubing and being careful of the o-ring, the newer pistols no longer have one so don't worry about it. I suspected they had changed it but I thought I might have lost mine so I got in touch with Walther sports service department and they confirmed there is no longer any o-ring. The cleaning advice also came from them too.
I don't look down at the sights I pick them up as I raise. My head stays in position.
All precision events I shoot sub-six.
Glad your liking your SSP, the big thing is to keep it clean. As the pistols get more complicated they become less tolerant of dirt. I clean and lube mine every 500 rounds approx. (every two-three sessions). Make sure you put the rods back into the right holes (I know what happens from experience). The first clue that you have it wrong is that it's difficult to put back together.
Another thing the manual talks about lubing and being careful of the o-ring, the newer pistols no longer have one so don't worry about it. I suspected they had changed it but I thought I might have lost mine so I got in touch with Walther sports service department and they confirmed there is no longer any o-ring. The cleaning advice also came from them too.
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Re: standard pistol ?'s
"Finally got my parts for my SSP to change it to left hand Friday just in time for our standard pistol match Saturday, shot a 543. I had shot my S&W 41 the previous two matches and scored 536,537. Even shot my SSP right handed last month because I couldn't stand having a new gun and not shooting it and shot a 503. This is my only experience with international standard pistol. So here are my questions:
Do you guys hold center, six, sub-six? I am holdin sub-six. "
I also hold sub six. I think it is best for irons as it eliminates both the distraction of the bull and also the problem of aging eyes causing the sight to wash out against the black.
Some of the guys at my club suggest center but I believe Brian Zins suggest a sub-six for NRA bullseye and there really isn't that much difference in the two disciplines is there?
Yes and no. Most people use red dots for bullseye, but of course iron sights for the LEG match. There is a lot of difference between shooting a 22 caliber pistol with a 1000 gram trigger (2.2 pounds) and a 9mm or a 45 with a 4 pound trigger.
"When the target turns do you look down to the sights and follow the front sight up to your aming point or do you continue looking at the target and just let the sights come up into where you are looking?"
Most shooting books recommend alighting your sights with your eye rather than the other way around.
"Any other things I should know or should be training to do?"
Yes you should be learning how long your hold it good for and to trust it and pull the trigger smoothly while your hold it good.
"On a side note I was wondering what people didn't like about the SSP trigger. Mine seems to be very good. It was at about 1070 grams when I got it and I now have it set at 1020. I tried to get it at about 1010 but could get 1020 or 995 but couldn't get it between so I left it at 1020. It is very crisp with no creep. If you are after a roll type trigger then I could see where it wouldn't be considered good. The first stage is smooth and the weight seems fine to me right now. When i first shot it in rapid fire I wasn't letting my finger off the trigger far enough and it wouldn't fire again but I seem to have gotten over that."
yes, not letting the trigger reset is a common problem and with more practice and familiarity it will go away quickly. I have a few comments on a crisp trigger as opposed to a roll trigger. For me personally I am less likely to flinch shooting a crisp trigger but also less likely to jerk a shot in sustained fire when shooting a roll trigger. Once you become a disciplined shooter you may find a roll trigger works better for you but for the first few years it usually does not. So bottom line I shoot better in slow fire with a crisp trigger but believe that I shoot better in sustained fire with a roll. However changing in the middle of a match would be difficult so I may end up going with a roll and slapping myself a few times till I shoot it without flinching in slow fire. :-)
Do you guys hold center, six, sub-six? I am holdin sub-six. "
I also hold sub six. I think it is best for irons as it eliminates both the distraction of the bull and also the problem of aging eyes causing the sight to wash out against the black.
Some of the guys at my club suggest center but I believe Brian Zins suggest a sub-six for NRA bullseye and there really isn't that much difference in the two disciplines is there?
Yes and no. Most people use red dots for bullseye, but of course iron sights for the LEG match. There is a lot of difference between shooting a 22 caliber pistol with a 1000 gram trigger (2.2 pounds) and a 9mm or a 45 with a 4 pound trigger.
"When the target turns do you look down to the sights and follow the front sight up to your aming point or do you continue looking at the target and just let the sights come up into where you are looking?"
Most shooting books recommend alighting your sights with your eye rather than the other way around.
"Any other things I should know or should be training to do?"
Yes you should be learning how long your hold it good for and to trust it and pull the trigger smoothly while your hold it good.
"On a side note I was wondering what people didn't like about the SSP trigger. Mine seems to be very good. It was at about 1070 grams when I got it and I now have it set at 1020. I tried to get it at about 1010 but could get 1020 or 995 but couldn't get it between so I left it at 1020. It is very crisp with no creep. If you are after a roll type trigger then I could see where it wouldn't be considered good. The first stage is smooth and the weight seems fine to me right now. When i first shot it in rapid fire I wasn't letting my finger off the trigger far enough and it wouldn't fire again but I seem to have gotten over that."
yes, not letting the trigger reset is a common problem and with more practice and familiarity it will go away quickly. I have a few comments on a crisp trigger as opposed to a roll trigger. For me personally I am less likely to flinch shooting a crisp trigger but also less likely to jerk a shot in sustained fire when shooting a roll trigger. Once you become a disciplined shooter you may find a roll trigger works better for you but for the first few years it usually does not. So bottom line I shoot better in slow fire with a crisp trigger but believe that I shoot better in sustained fire with a roll. However changing in the middle of a match would be difficult so I may end up going with a roll and slapping myself a few times till I shoot it without flinching in slow fire. :-)