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Spotting scope for the .22 matches (15-50 meters)

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:39 pm
by nester
Which spotting scope do I need for the smallbore shooting (mostly indoor) at quite short distances?

The idea - I need to be able look at the target without breaking my pose (only slightly tilting the head). So it must be 45° angled and provide the largest "screen size".
1. Which spec is responsible for that - Eye Relief distance? Or is it a combination of them? Also - what is the Exit pupil and do I need to care it's size?

2. Also about front lens size - does it matter a lot? Or the brand/make/glass quality more important? E.g. would Minox 16-30x50 match (or outperform) Konus 20-60x80?

3. Right now I am looking at Minox 16-30x50 (Eye relief: 15-11mm, all specs: http://www.minox.com/index.php?id=1678&L=1) and Bushnell Legend Ultra HD 12–36x50 (Eye relief: 17mm, all specs: http://www.bushnell.com/products/scopes ... /786351ED/). The prices are pretty close - $250-300.
So here Bushnell is better for me, or not necessary?

Also there is a Bushnell Legend 20-60x80 Ultra HD for $430 - would it be significantly better?

4. A stand. Which stand is usually used - not tripod, but rather a pole with weights at the bottom? How it's called and where to get it?

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:58 pm
by Rover

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:58 pm
by Leo
I have an inexpensive Kowa optics are fine... wich I had more eye relief... don't be as concerned for zoom look for a model with extended eye releif -- in my prone Ican tilt my head -- don't need a perfect head position and can still see the targets... good luck.

Re: Spotting scope for the .22 matches (15-50 meters)

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:33 am
by Spencer
nester wrote:Which spotting scope do I need for the smallbore shooting (mostly indoor) at quite short distances?

The idea - I need to be able look at the target without breaking my pose (only slightly tilting the head). So it must be 45° angled and provide the largest "screen size".
1. Which spec is responsible for that - Eye Relief distance? Or is it a combination of them? Also - what is the Exit pupil and do I need to care it's size?

2. Also about front lens size - does it matter a lot? Or the brand/make/glass quality more important? E.g. would Minox 16-30x50 match (or outperform) Konus 20-60x80?

3. Right now I am looking at Minox 16-30x50 (Eye relief: 15-11mm, all specs: http://www.minox.com/index.php?id=1678&L=1) and Bushnell Legend Ultra HD 12–36x50 (Eye relief: 17mm, all specs: http://www.bushnell.com/products/scopes ... /786351ED/). The prices are pretty close - $250-300.
So here Bushnell is better for me, or not necessary?

Also there is a Bushnell Legend 20-60x80 Ultra HD for $430 - would it be significantly better?

4. A stand. Which stand is usually used - not tripod, but rather a pole with weights at the bottom? How it's called and where to get it?
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:42 pm
by westerngriz
I have both a Kowa and Konus. The Konus is a quality scope for much less money than the Kowa. The Konus has just as good resolution(if not better) and a zoom feature. The only thing I dont like about it is the eye relief and the field of view.
I like Kowa because of the huge field of view and the eye relief. It makes it very easy to see the image without having to remove my head from the stock.
Matt

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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:29 am
by RobStubbs
You really don't need anything optically great for indoor shooting. For outdoors at 50M you can get away with a low end scope as well, but it gets easier to see holes with a better quality scope (better glass and bigger back lens = more light). It's when you get out to 100Y you need the better optics. You can get away with a poorer scope if you just rarely shoot 100Y, but if you shoot it more often, then you really need a decent, high end, scope.

Rob.