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I have heard from someone that was there that some US women pistol competitors were written up for wearing shorts even though the shorts were well past their finger tips. I wonder why and also wonder if that action was protested?

Do you have any details of the shorts?

At the worst, if there was a breach of the dress code, they should only have received verbal warnings.

Did they receive verbal warnings and, if so, was a reason given?

How reliable and well informed was the "someone" you heard the story from.

I thought the shorts only had to be knee length?

Was it part of an official uniform?

Scotty wrote:I thought the shorts only had to be knee length?

Rule 8.4.5.1.3
Shorts may not be shorter than the athlete’s fingertips when the arms and fingers are extended at the athlete’s side.

In addition to this, the new dress code includes a ban on "ragged cut-off shorts".

Has anyone had confirmation of what, if anything, actually happenned.

edit note: The dress code also includes:-

The intention of ISSF pistol and shotgun clothing rules is that shooters in competitions must wear sports-type clothing that incorporates or displays national, NOC or NF colors and emblems. Appropriate clothing for wear during competitions includes training suits, tracksuits or warm-up uniforms, etc. as issued by national federations or NOCs.

As far as I know it has nothing to do with short length there were no short shorts or cut-offs that I saw and I don't recall the US Women being involved in the issue at all. There were other issues with regards to the expanding definition of jeans and "similar trousers". As well as the word "patches" which now seems to include pockets sewn on the outside so that even khaki cotton trousers that had pockets on the outside now seem to be an issue.

It hasn't been a big deal, its just very frustrating for some of the athletes to be involved in this ridicules fashion show.

What we really need is the actual governing body who at the moment seems to be NBC to tell people exactly what to wear or maybe they could provide costumers.

Richard H wrote:What we really need is the actual governing body who at the moment seems to be NBC to tell people exactly what to wear or maybe they could provide costumers.

Thanks for the update Richard.

I think "Appropriate clothing for wear during competitions includes training suits, tracksuits or warm-up uniforms, etc. as issued by national federations or NOCs" gives a pretty fair indication of what the ISSF's next move is likely to be.

Yes, it is becoming very clear that somewhere in the ISSF the belief exists that the only appropriate covering for a pistol shooter is track/warm-up pants. There seems to be this idea that they will make a shooter look more athletic and thus be more appealing to the IOC and NBC. Seems to remind me of the lipstick on the pig issue.

Personally I'm leading towards Plus fours or knickerbockers, if they are going to make people wear clothing that is basically inappropriate for the activity they might as well go all out and make a colourful fashion statement.

David Levene wrote:

Richard H wrote:What we really need is the actual governing body who at the moment seems to be NBC to tell people exactly what to wear or maybe they could provide costumers.

Thanks for the update Richard.

I think "Appropriate clothing for wear during competitions includes training suits, tracksuits or warm-up uniforms, etc. as issued by national federations or NOCs" gives a pretty fair indication of what the ISSF's next move is likely to be.

I guess it does, but their missive on clothing rules specifically mentioned shorts (which are not mentioned above).

David, You can let us know what the story is from the Belgrade world cup.... :)

Rob.

RobStubbs wrote:David, You can let us know what the story is from the Belgrade world cup.... :)

'fraid not Rob; work gets in the way.

David Levene wrote:

RobStubbs wrote:David, You can let us know what the story is from the Belgrade world cup.... :)

'fraid not Rob; work gets in the way.

Oh that's a pain, DaveG indicated you and a couple of others were going when I bumped into him last w/e. Well I'll be at Munich so I'll see what the score is there.

Rob.

Yes shorts are the main issue here, at 94˚F and 100% humidity shorts are a popular option here.

Richard H wrote:Yes shorts are the main issue here, at 94˚F and 100% humidity shorts are a popular option here.

As David says, it's still unclear what the specefics of any vioaltion were as shorts themselves are permitted.

Rob.

The other question is why bother the shooters on match day when they were most likely dressed the same during pre event training where the same rules apply

Anonymous wrote:The other question is why bother the shooters on match day when they were most likely dressed the same during pre event training where the same rules apply

As I understand it, some non-US competitors were warned during/after the training sessions. If that is true then, presumably, the US competitors were either not at the training sessions or were not wearing any "offending" items.

Suppose a Scotsman chose to wear a kilt approved by his national federation?

peterz wrote:Suppose a Scotsman chose to wear a kilt approved by his national federation?

That hasn't been allowed since 01/01/2005

David Levene wrote:

peterz wrote:Suppose a Scotsman chose to wear a kilt approved by his national federation?

That hasn't been allowed since 01/01/2005

I am sure they must have had COMPELLING reasons.

Alexander