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Anschutz 2013 rubber pad

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:13 am
by BGC
Hi

I have read that some users of the Anschutz 2013 aluminium stock use to change the rubber pad between stock and action after a while.

My 2013 action shoots really good in my wooden stock (or clamped in a vise), but no longer in my aluminium stock (both stocks are Anschutz original). The groups have gradually got bigger over the last year, and strange flyers occur with the aluminium stock.

Has anyone of you experienced a loss off accuracy, and then seen a positive effect after replacing this pad? My alu stock is about 6 yers old now.

Thanks

BGC

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 6:58 pm
by John R. Sylvester
I have seen this problem 1st hand. That rubber material in mine went south after a couple years and the groups got big regardless what torque I used. I ended up trying a number of different materials to see what would work and I found some compressed cardboard gasket material that worked really well. Don't be afraid to try a number of different materials. I tried some foam that shot good initially then went bad quick. You really need to experiment and use contact cement to keep it in place.

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:55 pm
by WesternGrizzly
I am not sure how the 2013 goes into the stock and all but you could get a gunsmith to glass bed it. It would be rock solid.

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 8:07 pm
by John R. Sylvester
the problem with glassing those 2000 series actions is that if you ever change out barrels the clamping force changes slightly and your expensive bedding job will be worthless at that point. The weakness of the action as far as i am concerned is it's great ability to change out barrels with ease. No free rides I suppose.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 12:35 am
by 1813benny
John R. Sylvester wrote:the problem with glassing those 2000 series actions is that if you ever change out barrels the clamping force changes slightly and your expensive bedding job will be worthless at that point. The weakness of the action as far as i am concerned is it's great ability to change out barrels with ease. No free rides I suppose.
The clamping force is not the issue that changes the bedding. The issue is that the shank diameter might be off a few tenths, thus resulting in one corner of the action lifting, albeit only a few tenths, it will be off of the bedding. If you are very picky about the diameter of replacement barrel shanks, the bedding issue goes away.

Clamping force is via the threaded fasteners, of which should be tightened in the same sequence with the use of a torque wrench.

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 2:51 pm
by BGC
Glass bedding this action is not that easy in an Anschutz alu stock... You look at minimal space and thin walls. So, I'll try just to replace the gasket :)

John - that compressed cardboard gasket you used - did you glue it in, or...?

Thanks

BGC

BGC

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 2:53 pm
by BGC
John, sorry - contact cement - didn't see that :)

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 3:27 pm
by Guest
Yes I used contact cement and i tried a number of different materials untill I found one that produced groups sizes I could live with at 100 yards. Try something, scrape it out, clean the surface and try something else. Don't be afraid to experiment with differnet gasket materials as you might stumble on something that gives you better results than the factory stuff.

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 7:31 pm
by BartP
What I want to know is why these pads aren't part of the normal catalog of replacement parts for Anschutz rifles. Does anyone KNOW where to order these pads? Bp

Bedding pad

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 7:54 pm
by Buckeye
Hey Bart
Last Sept I inquired about a replacement pad for my 2313 aluminum stock from ISS(Neal Stepp, Fort Worth). He responded with an eye popping $107!!

Good Luck at the Spring Selection! Show 'em how it's done!

Greg

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 5:06 am
by BartP
That sucks! But, as with many of the pieces of equipment we buy, it's better to look at it at the cost spread over time. I'll check it out. And thanks - done practicing until I get to GA. Just have to see who puts it all together. Bp

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 5:31 am
by BGC
Hi again

Yesterday I made my own replacement gasket of a 0,5 mm thick oilproof gasket, and pulled it thru a special gluing machine (Xyron) that applies glue evenly to just one side. Price: an eye popping 30 cents total.

One thing that surprised me removing the original gasket, is that is has a core of aluminium (or thin steel), with rubber around it. Didn't know that. So it was really easy to remove. Anyway, I then cleaned the surfaces, and put in the new gasket.

Tested it today and it worked just fine - I shot 99 series in average, and the 9´s were caused by myself. Still not sure if the gasket is the one thing that caused my problem as I described, but it sure looks promising.

Now I just have to evaluate this gasket over some time. The glue might go bad after a while, who knows. But for now, it looks really good :)

//BGC

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:33 pm
by John R. Sylvester
just keep and eye on it for 500 or so rounds. I had tried some different materials that worked great when new yet after being compressed started to open up the groups. Like I said it is so cheap and easy to experiment that you can almost try an infinite amount of materials until you get the long term results you are looking for.

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:38 pm
by John R. Sylvester
as an aside. My original bedding material was the same as yours with the metal core. I noticed that when I would take the barreled action out of the stock that the original rubber material would decompress and look new again. I did notice that when it stopped shooting well that rubber never "sprung" back and always stayed compressed. I think when that foam rubber gets memory and does not decompress that the bedding material is no longer effective.