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Which one would you buy?

I bought a new LP10 six months ago, but only because the E version was not available. Today I would buy the electronic version.

deadeyedick wrote:I bought a new LP10 six months ago, but only because the E version was not available. Today I would buy the electronic version.

I bought a new LP10 about a month ago - strangely enough, the distributor talked me out of the LP10E....

Leon wrote:I bought a new LP10 about a month ago - strangely enough, the distributor talked me out of the LP10E....

What reasons did he give.

What reasons did he give.

I'd be curious to hear why as well.

I would to buy a LP10.
Why?
The price difference of 265 Euro (380 USDollars) is for me too much.(dutch prices)
The trigger pressure doesn't change.
And i'm not so fond of electric systems in a gun.

I personally like the feel of the mechanical trigger. I find that the electronic triggers do give you the same feedback as a mechanical trigger.

Just personal preference though. I got the LP10

Today, I bought a Steyr LP10.

First impression: The pistol looks nice, the square barrel looks perfect.

The grip (made by morini) just excellent. It fits awfull great.

The pistol feels like my morini cm22m, so i think i will get used to it fast.

I's just a bit longer.

Now i have to wait a few days before i can try it on the shootingrange.

But that give some time to practice the dry firingmechanism, and maybe putting on the extra barrelweights.

After a few times at the shootingrange to adjust the lp10 voor my eyesight, I decided to do a test.

First time 60 shots within one hour 5 shots per target.

total 506 points.

not bad, considdering this is my first test

again the lp10 is a very nice airpistol.

I have no regreds for buying this pistol

For me the situation is the following:
- LP10: proven, best in class performances, proven, excellent reliability, competitive priced top performances single shot match air pistol..
- LP10E: excellent performances too but no proves that its performances are better than the one of the LP10, to be proven reliability, most expensive single shot match air pistol on the market.

Conclusion: unless you are an experienced shooter and know that you definitively prefer the feeling of an electronic trigger, buy an LP10 !

For the choice, LP50 vs LP50E its different: the excellent trigger of the LP50E compared to the relatively poor trigger of the LP50 moves the balances toward the LP50E.

David Levene wrote:

Leon wrote:I bought a new LP10 about a month ago - strangely enough, the distributor talked me out of the LP10E....

What reasons did he give.

Well, despite having both the LP10 and E in stock - and shooting both, he said that electronic trigger offered no advantage at all. But could provide some headaches later on..... ( parts, reliability etc ) His own personal opinion.

I am very happy with my LP10 and cannot fault the trigger. Nor could I imangine anything better than it.

Leon wrote:
Well, despite having both the LP10 and E in stock - and shooting both, he said that electronic trigger offered no advantage at all. But could provide some headaches later on..... ( parts, reliability etc ) His own personal opinion.

I am very happy with my LP10 and cannot fault the trigger. Nor could I imangine anything better than it.

Very odd behaviour from the dealer, and perhaps he has some beef with Steyr - I can't believe they'd be happy with a dealer making such 'personal' and unfounded statements. Yes every new product can have a teething period but the LP10'e' is based on the proven and tested technologies in the LP10. Perhaps the dealer had loads of LP10's he was trying to shift and very few 'e's.

Rob.

RobStubbs wrote: Very odd behaviour from the dealer, and perhaps he has some beef with Steyr - I can't believe they'd be happy with a dealer making such 'personal' and unfounded statements. Yes every new product can have a teething period but the LP10'e' is based on the proven and tested technologies in the LP10. Perhaps the dealer had loads of LP10's he was trying to shift and very few 'e's.

Rob.

Quote, same idea!
Probably the "E" trigger is the most tested technologies in the LP10 history, they have it by years now, take a look at LP5 frame.
No doubt dealer has a lot LP10 to sell.

LukeP wrote:Probably the "E" trigger is the most tested technologies in the LP10 history, they have it by years now, take a look at LP5 frame.

I do not doubt that they tested it a lot and since a long time but nothing replaces real production of thousands of pieces to really assess the reliability of a product.

So, as a matter of fact and without having any reason to doubt of the reliability of the LP10E, at this moment, the reliability of the LP10 is much better proven than the reliability of the LP10E.

A second fact: the price of the LP10E is much higher than the price of the LP10. In absolute value, it is very high for a match air pistol, as far as I know, the LP10E is the most expensive on the market while the LP10 price is very competitive.

So seen the best in class performances of the LP10 (it still holds the world record), for a beginner and any shooter who doesn't absolutely want an electronic trigger, I think that the LP10 is the best choice.

Who cares about the price of a AP that you can shoot for years and years? Stop using that argument.

I shoot the lp10e for 3 months now and there is a different feel on the electronic trigger if i compare it with the mechanical one. All the lp10 users at my club love the feel of it. So there is definitely a difference. You did not hold both pistols if you say that the feel of the triggers is exactly the same.

If you want to have a new airpistol and you do not already have the lp10 and you have the money for a lp10e, go for the lp10e.
Do you have the lp10 and want to move on to the lp10e, stick with the lp10 and save the money until the price drops or other manufactures come with same technologies.

Naimed1983 wrote:I shoot the lp10e for 3 months now and there is a different feel on the electronic trigger if i compare it with the mechanical one. All the lp10 users at my club love the feel of it. So there is definitely a difference. You did not hold both pistols if you say that the feel of the triggers is exactly the same.

If you want to have a new airpistol and you do not already have the lp10 and you have the money for a lp10e, go for the lp10e.
Do you have the lp10 and want to move on to the lp10e, stick with the lp10 and save the money until the price drops or other manufactures come with same technologies.

Yes, I shoot with an LP10 since a very long time and tried the LP10E. Indeed the trigger feeling is different. It is like for the Morini 162: different feeling between the electronic and mechanical triggers.

But does that difference in feeling results and better shost and higher scores ? This is not known for the LP10 vs LP10E. For the Morini, the answer is known: it depends from people, some definitely like and think they shoot better with the electronic trigger while others don't, it is a question of personal taste.

This is why I say that experienced shooters knowing that they like an electronic trigger should buy the LP10E while for the others, seen the big rpice difference and the fact that the LP10 is one of the best pistol on the market, go for the LP10.

Now, if money isn't a problem and if you like the LP10E, no reason not to buy it but do not expect doing better scores with the LP10E than with the LP10.

For the the Morini's, the price difference between the two types of triggers is limited. So, I also agree with you: the Steyr electronic trigger si new and therefore highly priced but its price will most probably drop and the price difference between the two trigger versions will probably become smaller.

Time will tell witch one will be better. The latest world-cup was won by a stock lp10e with default grip and trigger. The world record is set by an lp10 but i expect that it will be broken later this year with a lp10e. Just for promotion and acceptation for the lp10e. Time will tell...

Strange things occurs:
discussion shifted from "best technical value for money" to "pistol that make points by its own".
Just imho,
LukeP.

Naimed1983 wrote: The world record is set by an lp10 but i expect that it will be broken later this year with a lp10e.

It took 20 years to improve the previous world record by 1 point... With the LP10E, Jong Oh Jin was 3 points below his own world record obtained with an LP10 but indeed, he has now a Rink grip:

LukeP wrote:Strange things occurs:
discussion shifted from "best technical value for money" to "pistol that make points by its own".
Just imho,
LukeP.

Not only points but even world records ! Some people take their dreams for reality.