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Can you provide some information as to the performance, reliability, servicability of these C02 guns?

Are there any issues or concerns with these pistols?

Regards,

Tony

The Junior National AP record is held with one of these (Chris Alvarez).

They were the hot thing once upon a time. Never heard of any issues with them.

I don't know what the parts situation is, the guns being over 20 years old, but O-rings are still available.

more accurate than I am and much easier to load than the IZH-46m.

With CO2, you get a lot of shots (I have three cylinders which give me 90-110 shots each)

It can be run with air using Feinwerkbau part number 18770012 (Air adapter)

Here's a thread with a bunch of info.
/viewtopic.php?p=7978

Chris

I shot one for years. It was reliable and accurate. It never needed any work. I probably would still be shooting it, except for me, compressed air is easier for me to get than C02. I did notice that in very hot weather (above 90 degrees F.) that there seemed to be a little less power per shot than when the temperature was lower. That isn't a fault of the pistol, but seems to be a characteristic of C02. Chilling the cylinders of C02 pistols before filling and weighing them is a must. It's not a real pain, but just something more that you have to do with C02 that you don't have to do with compressed air guns. The grips are ok on the FWB 2, but nothing special. IMHO you would not find a better gun for the money than a FWB 2. It was the cat's meow before compressed air hit the market. I have been shooting a Morini 162 EI for several years now, but my scores didn't jump up dramatically when I went to it.

Chris__Colorado wrote:more accurate than I am and much easier to load than the IZH-46m.

With CO2, you get a lot of shots (I have three cylinders which give me 90-110 shots each)

It can be run with air using Feinwerkbau part number 18770012 (Air adapter)

Here's a thread with a bunch of info.
/viewtopic.php?p=7978

Chris

Can you provide some more info on this as I have never found a conversion for the model 2. Morini make a conversion for later models and it is quiet expensive

Here is a LINK with the complete archive: http://www.ssamonthlyshoot.com/forums/s ... php?p=6902

Follow the "more" at the bottom of the page for the ensuing extended discussion.

I had one a short time after they appeared in my country, in 1985.

The pistol was very good, and a good deal difrente in balance compared with the FWB-65 I'b been using until them.

Only one caveat: mine is a namely subtropical region, and from november thru march it's not unusual to have max temperatures over 100º F (38 º C).

Under these conditions, the CO2 heats and generates more pressure than normal (at 53 grams charge) and the pistol reads this as an "overcharge).

In the Modell 2, this activates a blocking mechanism and what you get is a "pffft" sound and a low gas discharge, and a bad shot.

If that is the case, you can:

1) Fire the pistol without pellet until the pressure reaches normal standards or

2) Purge the cylinder using the piece provided for just this purpose (be careful to not overbleed it, or else you won't have enough porpellant left to finish your match).

I'm not fantasizing, this happened to me and fellow shooters. It was a common view in matches held in open ranges for shooters to "hide" the pistol from the direct rays of sun while resting, to keep it from warming excessively. I had my cylinders (another usual solution) blast chromed to increase ray reflection.

Later I changed it for a FWB-10, which had a prechamber designed specially to avoid this ocurrence.

With the aforementioned in mind, you will take only satisfactions from your piece, provided parts are still available (which I don't know).

Good luck

I had one a short time after they appeared in my country, in 1985.

The pistol was very good, and a good deal different in balance compared with the FWB-65 I'd been using until them.

Only one caveat: mine is a namely subtropical region, and from november thru march it's not unusual to have max temperatures over 100º F (38 º C).

Under these conditions, the CO2 heats and generates more pressure than normal (at 53 grams charge) and the pistol reads this as an "overcharge).

In the Modell 2, this activates a blocking mechanism and what you get is a "pffft" sound and a low gas discharge, and a bad shot.

If that is the case, you can:

1) Fire the pistol without pellet until the pressure reaches normal standards or

2) Purge the cylinder using the piece provided for just this purpose (be careful to not overbleed it, or else you won't have enough porpellant left to finish your match).

I'm not fantasizing, this happened to me and fellow shooters. It was a common view in matches held in open ranges for shooters to "hide" the pistol from the direct rays of sun while resting, to keep it from warming excessively. I had my cylinders (another usual solution) blast chromed to increase ray reflection.

Later I changed it for a FWB-10, which had a prechamber designed specially to avoid this ocurrence.

With the aforementioned in mind, you will take only satisfactions from your piece, provided parts are still available (which I don't know).

Good luck

Hi.

I used the FWB C20 from 1991 through 1997. It gave me very consistent scores and made my very best practice score of 581 with it. In 1997, I was sold, at a very reasonable price, a compressed air Steyr LP1 but couldn't really reach the scores I used to until I stopped in 1998. I sold the C20 in 2009 and in the process, the buyer and I tested it and it functioned just as well without any fixing at all. BTW, I affixed a compensator on this to tame its relatively significant recoil as its best accuracy was at 554fps.

Finally, I know its tank takes 53 grams as its max load. But experiencing some shot inconsistencies, on any given day, I would only load 50 grams and consume about 24 grams for a 60 shot match with sighters. It would still shoot the same with just under 10 grams Don't forget to use the filter that comes with the loading adapter.

Regards,

Ron

I have one that I shot for several years. It was very reliable and never needed any work. I shot some very good scores with mine...580+ The Mod 2 has the valve in the cylinder so each time you shoot, a striker hits the cylinder valve and gives you a charge of CO2. If the cylinder was overfilled or too warm, the striker would not hit the valve hard enough to cause it to open. Due to each cylinder having its own valve, you could potentially get slightly different velocity from different cylinders. Later models that were changed to have the charging chamber in the pistol itself were considered an advantage because the same charging valve was being activated all the time, making velocities more consistent. As stated, I still have my Mod 2 and would love to shoot it occassionally just for old time sake, but I have no way to fill the cylinders. I have no idea of parts availability, but at one time, this was definitely the AP to have and most of the top shooters in the world were using them.