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Steyr - Frequency of New Model Introduction

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 6:14 pm
by Oz
What does history say about Steyr's new model introductions?

The LP10 is one of the most advanced pistols available. Sure, the non-electronic trigger is a source of debate, but that's not the purpose of this thread.

The facts are that the LP10 is 6 years old. Yes, it will be shot for many years to come, but I was just curious if there were any rumors and/or time lines on the next gen Steyr?

Would history say 2 years? 5 years? 10 years? Maybe the most logical next gen Steyr would simply be an electronic trigger option on an LP10.

Oz

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:05 am
by Tycho
The LP1 came out when, around 91/92? And very little was changed over the next 10 years. The LP5 concept is about 10 years old, and virtually unchanged. It's well known that a electronic LP5 was developed but didn't get to serial production, probably for commercial reasons - why improve something, when people are complaining but have no alternatives. I think that the people at Steyr are milking their cash cows to the max and won't come out with something new unless they have to. And looking at the market, to take a shot at the others, I don't think they have to.

As to the "E" rumour, I wouldn't be surprised if they have a LP10E in the drawer, but there is no reason at all to bring it out - eTriggers make sense in rapid fire pistols, but have no real advantage in a single shot pistol.

What I see of "the market" makes me believe that not a lot of new pistols are sold nowadays. There is no big technological change in sight, as we had from the LP65 to the CO2 guns, and from CO2 to air. Most shooters (here) have nice, competitive pistols and no objective reason to switch. So I wouldn't expect too much from the few remaining manufacturers, most of them have a hard life as it is and no real budget for new things.

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:51 am
by jipe
The LP10 came out end 99, so it will soon be 9 year old... and still at the top (all women finalist at the latest Olymoics were using a Steyr or its clone from Anschutz).

Steyr made some improvements inside (regulator) and then recently introduced the ball bearing mounted trigger.

Steyr improvements

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:44 am
by ronpistolero
I purchased my Steyr LP1 PCP second hand in 1995. Except for the o-rings and the changing of firing pins twice, it still is in very condition. I changed its conical compensator by machining one using brass with a bore of 4.7mm and 4 upward holes. I feel it has improved a lot. But I would like to know what the advantage of a ball bearing mounted trigger system would present as mine remains so very smooth still

Ron

Re: Steyr improvements

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:34 pm
by jipe
ronpistolero wrote:I purchased my Steyr LP1 PCP second hand in 1995. Except for the o-rings and the changing of firing pins twice, it still is in very condition. I changed its conical compensator by machining one using brass with a bore of 4.7mm and 4 upward holes. I feel it has improved a lot. But I would like to know what the advantage of a ball bearing mounted trigger system would present as mine remains so very smooth still

Ron
The main benefit of the ball bearing is to suppress the small lateral movement of the normal trigger.

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:11 pm
by j-team
LP1 was available at the 1990 World champs I believe, maybe be even late 1989.

LP10 mid 1999, I got mine in June.

I agree with Tycho, why bother with an electronic trigger when the mechanical one does just fine. I've said it before, there's less moving parts in a Steyr mechanical trigger than there is in a Morini electronic. And now Steyr has the roller bearings too.