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LP10 vs LP50 vs LP5

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:35 pm
by arjuna70
I wanted to know if there was any difference in accuracy between the LP50 or LP5 and the LP10. I was thinking of getting another air pistol dedicated for air pistol shooting. If I just use the single shot magazine can I participate?

I have an LP50 that I outfitted with a Red Dot and Heavy Trigger for Bullseye practice but am thinking about getting into air pistol competition. Thanks.

Re: LP10 vs LP50 vs LP5

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:56 pm
by Fred Mannis
arjuna70 wrote:I wanted to know if there was any difference in accuracy between the LP50 or LP5 and the LP10. I was thinking of getting another air pistol dedicated for air pistol shooting. If I just use the single shot magazine can I participate?

I have an LP50 that I outfitted with a Red Dot and Heavy Trigger for Bullseye practice but am thinking about getting into air pistol competition. Thanks.
There is no difference in accuracy, per se, but there is a big difference in the triggers. The LP5/50 has a single stage rolling trigger which is very good for sustained fire shooting, but not as good as the two stage trigger of the LP10 for AP60. I started with an LP50 with the idea that I could use it for BE practice, silhouette, and AP60. It was OK, but after trying some pistols with good two stage triggers, I bought an LP1. If you are not yet sure about staying with AP60, then the LP50 is certainly good enough to allow you to compete (using the single shot mag).
YMMV,
Fred

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:18 pm
by arjuna70
Fred, thanks for the help.

What is the difference between the LP1 and LP10? Any other Air Pistol recommendations. I do like the LP50 that I currently shoot.

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:56 pm
by LukeP
arjuna70 wrote: What is the difference between the LP1 and LP10? Any other Air Pistol recommendations. I do like the LP50 that I currently shoot.
LP1 is basically the old model, and from what i remember is co2, but is possible to convert to air simply changing regulator group and cylinder .
LP10 is the new ones, air, with some change/improvements: 3 upper barrel hole, absorber, minor exterior difference.
View pilkguns files:
http://www.pilkguns.com/tenp/default.htm

It's common opinion lp10 trigger is not identically damn good feeling as LP1 ones.
If you like LP50 for certain type of shooting, you could, for precision shooting, give a look to a used LP1: very very nice trigger, smooth co2 sensation and quite nice priced.
As stated above, first try LP50, LP1 and whatevere you find near you at the range, then decide if you want a new pistol for a single discipline.

If i would have to buy a second pistol for precision shooting Air Pistol 10m, for sure i'll go toward a used LP1 co2 if reasonably priced. (my first pistol is lp10 air, so an lp1 would be nearly identically but cheaper)
If you are not sure how much training you can put behind your air pistol for AP match, imho i would give a serious test to morini 162ei short: short barrel, electronic trigger, imho more friendly than long version for weekend shooter.
I think short version is not so common among adult male shooter because of "macho man" thinking: big is best, small is for female and child.

Best regards,
LukeP.

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:49 pm
by Fred Mannis
arjuna70 wrote:Fred, thanks for the help.

What is the difference between the LP1 and LP10? Any other Air Pistol recommendations. I do like the LP50 that I currently shoot.
I agree with Luke's comments on the LP1 and LP10.
Use the Search function. There has been extensive discussion here on Steyr, FWB, Anschutz, Morini. Try to shoot, or at least handle, as many different pistols as you can. Selection is a very personal thing. Don't be in a rush. I bought my LP1 after shooting one that a fellow shooter let me try. I bought a FWB103 this year after trying my friend's 103.

LP1, Lp10, LP50

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:09 pm
by 2650 Plus
Even though we have yet to see one being used by the top shooters there is still a lot of good things to say about the short barreled AP that our host carries. It will apear stiller in the hand giving more confidence to the shooter when you first begin to shoot air pistol possibly accelerating the learning curve . It seems to be equally accurate compared to the longer barrel APs . Try it you may like it. Good Shooting Bill Horton

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:40 am
by arjuna70
Thanks for all the helpful comments. I shoot a lot of air pistol in my basement as practice for bullseye and our league which is starting in the Fall. Its hard for me to get the to the range with all my kids commitments and they come first.

After watching the Olympics, I'd love to try and compete in an air pistol and perhaps free pistol match. I was thinking of picking up one of those TOZ free pistols from CDNN. The problem with trying different air pistols is that I don't know of anyone who has any in RI.

I have an LP50 so I was thinking about the LP10 or now LP1. I've also heard a lot of good things about the Morini. Maybe I'll post a want ad and see what comes up.

Re: LP1, Lp10, LP50

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:33 pm
by Richard H
2650 Plus wrote:Even though we have yet to see one being used by the top shooters there is still a lot of good things to say about the short barreled AP that our host carries. It will apear stiller in the hand giving more confidence to the shooter when you first begin to shoot air pistol possibly accelerating the learning curve . It seems to be equally accurate compared to the longer barrel APs . Try it you may like it. Good Shooting Bill Horton
Not true the Morini and the Morini short have the same sight radius and equal adjustability (310-360mm), unless you mount a standard Morini rear sight on a Morini short. For that matter the Steyr LP10 sight radius can also be reduced to almost same amount (316-365mm) the LP 50 is 307-350mm so there really is no advantage with regards to sight radius amongst them.

There are shooters on the world cup circuit that shoot the Morini short too.