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Second stage trigger weights

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:15 am
by JulianY
I was talking about this with several folk and got inconsistent results so I wounder what you guys thought.

Suppose you set you 500g trigger to have a 250g second stage, who do you set up you 1000g trigger 500/500 , 700/300 750/250

and what about your 1360g trigger ?

On suggestion made , seemed to make sense to me

500 : 200/300
1000 : 300/700
1360 : 400/960

The idea being that the increasing first stage would reduce the feeling in the second stage so extra resistance was needed.

I await your thoughts

Julian

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:47 am
by RobStubbs
It has been suggested that optimal may be to have the 2nd stage pretty much constant, especially for those of us that get to train rarely with cartridge pistols. So that would be roughly;

500g - 50/50 (%)
1000g - 75/25
1360g - 80/20 (ish).

Perhaps increasing 2nd stage a bit more just in case so 250g, 300g and 400g respectively. It very much depends on how you shoot and what type of trigger you prefer (and of course whether or not you can acheive it on the guns you use).

My guns are nothing like that at the moment but the cartridge guns are new and I spent a lot of the last session tuning the triggers, and have more to do. My centre fire pistol seems to be about 600g 2nd stage at the moment which is too heavy for me.

Rob.

Re: Second stage trigger weights

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:26 am
by JulianY
JulianY wrote: 500 : 200/300
1000 : 300/700
1360 : 400/960
Just to clarify what i mean in the above table was

Total: Second Stage / First Stage

JY

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:12 am
by David M
Setting the second stage weight will vary depending on what you want as a character or feel on the trigger.
Factors include total weight, weight ratio first / second stage and stage travel length of each stage.
A two stage crisp trigger will have a heavier second stage, compared to a two stage roll off trigger.
Also the heavier the trigger, the heavier the second stage will have to be to get the same comparitave feel (your finger is less sensitive to small extra weight increases as the total trigger pulls get heavier).

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:32 am
by Mellberg
I don't think I would like to have my 32 set to ~1120/280g. With that amount of pressure on the trigger in the first stage the duelling would probably be a very nervous part of the competition. One slight mistake and you get 10 points down in the ground. After that you would need to shoot 29 tens to make your score "ok".

I think I have at least 500g left when I go from first stage to *pop*.

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:37 pm
by Axel
I would say that there's no "secret" or perfect combination. For duello I want some marginal between 1st and 2nd stage, just like Mellberg suggests. A shot in the bench cost so many points. It can easily happen in competitions when tension is high.

And don't forget to have marginal in total trigger pressure weight. I've seen people get DSQ after competitions because of to low trigger weight. Soo unnecessary!