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Meaning/Purpose of Alphabet 'F' on the Body of Pistols

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:13 am
by bharat
Hello,
I notice that on most of the air pistols, the alphabet 'F' is mentioned on the body of the pistol. What does this denote? Please let me know.
Thank you.

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:28 am
by JulianY
If it's the symbol I am thinking of, You will find it on German/Germanic pistols denoting it is "Free" of the require to have a gun licience in Germany.

Julian

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:02 am
by Sparks
An 'F' in a pentagram?
Means the muzzle energy of the pistol is below seven joules and thus (as Julian said), is free from the requirement to be licenced. You see it on air rifles as well.

'F' in Pentagram on Pistol/Rifle Body

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:22 am
by bharat
Yes, Julian is absolutely right. I too just had a talk with Mr.Alberto of Pardini ab\nd he confirmed that it is more of a German requirement.
And Sparks, you have given additional info. Thank you.

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:13 pm
by Ulrich Eichstädt
Sparks wrote:An 'F' in a pentagram?
Means the muzzle energy of the pistol is below seven joules and thus (as Julian said), is free from the requirement to be licenced. You see it on air rifles as well.
7.5 Joule, to be precise. All these models marked with the F in the pentagramm are free available from 18 years or older. We can use them for shooting at home or on an official shooting range. You are not allowed to carry itopen, only transport it. With this 7.5-joule-law we in germany are by far the lowest energy rate in europe (16.3 Joule/12 ft/lbs in England and Poland, 10 Joule in France).

The F-marking is made by the manufacturer. He sends one or two samples to the proof house, they check it (especially if one could rebuild it to higher levels with average tools, then it would not be allowed) and after that the company can use the F for all other guns of the same type. So no single check with every airgun like in England. That's the secret why a lot of especially exported airguns carry the F but are a bit above 7,5 Joule (up to 9...) - the ISSF has no muzzle-energy check at the competitions...

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:47 pm
by David Levene
Ulrich Eichstädt wrote:So no single check with every airgun like in England.
Airguns are NOT normally tested in England. It only happens when the authorities suspect that the gun is over the energy limit or has been used in a crime.

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:02 pm
by RobStubbs
Ulrich Eichstädt wrote:
Sparks wrote:An 'F' in a pentagram?
Means the muzzle energy of the pistol is below seven joules and thus (as Julian said), is free from the requirement to be licenced. You see it on air rifles as well.
7.5 Joule, to be precise. All these models marked with the F in the pentagramm are free available from 18 years or older. We can use them for shooting at home or on an official shooting range. You are not allowed to carry itopen, only transport it. With this 7.5-joule-law we in germany are by far the lowest energy rate in europe (16.3 Joule/12 ft/lbs in England and Poland, 10 Joule in France)....
The 12ft/lb you quote in England is only for rifles, the limit on pistols is 6.

Rob.

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:10 pm
by Ulrich Eichstädt
Yes, of course - so England is still below germany regarding air pistols' muzzle energies.

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:33 am
by bigred
Ulrich Eichstädt wrote: With this 7.5-joule-law we in germany are by far the lowest energy rate in europe (16.3 Joule/12 ft/lbs in England and Poland, 10 Joule in France).
Dont forget us in Ireland - anything over 1 Joule requires a Firearms Certificate. Also they can only be used on an police approved range - so no live practice at home....

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:05 pm
by Guest
Okay, okay - seems I was only fishing for compliments concerning the german gun law (in comparison to other countries)...