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Where can I find the target spacing requirements for rapid fire at 50 feet, 25 yards, and 25 meters respectively?

Also, is there a "B-XX" designation to a rapid fire target at 25 yards reduced? I can only find the 50 foot and 25 meter targets at Champions Choice in Nashville, TN. Is there another source I should be looking at for targets?

Thanks in advance,

Lonnie Meyers
Round Rock, TX

These are the reduced targets for Rapid Fire Pistol:

Distance / Targets:
• 25 M on B-37 (official) - Target Center to Center = 29.5 in.
• 25 yd on B-38 (official) - Target Center to Center = 29.5 in.
• 50 ft on B-39 (official) - Target Center to Center = 18 in.
• 18.5 ft on B-2 (simulated) - Target Center to Center = 6.7 in.
o Error: 10 ring = 18.8 ft, 9=17.8, 8=17.9, 7=18.8, 6=20.6,
5=23.2, AVG = 19.5 ft.
• 14 ft on B-40 (simulated) – Ctr to Ctr = 5.0 in.
o Error: 10 ring = 9.4 ft, 9=12.5, 8=13.7, 7=14.4, 6=14.8,
5=15.0, AVG = 13.3 ft.
• 9.2 ft on TQ-6 (simulated) – Ctr to Ctr = 3.3 in.

Sandy

Most of the targets are available from ALCO TARGET CO. except for the Edelman and Kruger targets which are imported from Europe.
Go to www.alcotarget.com
Sandy

Sandy,

Thanks for the info.

I had tried the USAS site and ISSF site that seemed to have everything but the spacing.

After reading the ISSF specific and general rules/regulations I had no idea that even the bay dimensions where the shooter stands and the roof (overhead clearance) were so distinctly defined.

Happy Holidays!

Lonnie Meyers

Sandy wrote:These are the reduced targets for Rapid Fire Pistol:

Distance / Targets:
• 25 M on B-37 (official) - Target Center to Center = 29.5 in.
• 25 yd on B-38 (official) - Target Center to Center = 29.5 in.
• 50 ft on B-39 (official) - Target Center to Center = 18 in.
.............

Curious. They are so technical every where else. Why not reduce the c-c for 25yds proportionately? I know it is not much, but like I said, they are so particular for other stuff.

• 25 M on B-37 (official) - Target Center to Center = 29.5 in.
• 25 yd on B-38 (official) - Target Center to Center = 29.5 in.

I wonder if that might be a typo. It would seem 27 in. would be desired. I haven't found any official reference anywhere, though. The targets are referenced, but not the spacing.

Sandy, could you point me to a spacing reference I can use for future review?

I've noticed the USAS has a short message from National Pistol Team Coach Sergey Luzov which references the ability to hold PTOs by acoustic shot timer:

Further, USA Shooting General Technical Rule 6.3.17B permits PTOs to be held using acoustic shot timers o­n stationary targets. Now all a club needs to hold a Rapid Fire match is a place to hang five targets at the correct spacing, a target backer to staple the targets to, an acoustic shot timer, and a half-dozen bullseye shooters who can shoot with their Hammerli 208s or Smith & Wesson Model 41s.

See:

http://www.usashooting.com/modules.php? ... &artid=244

for the full page.

I would have expected the spacing to be referenced in the USAS rules (but not ISSF) since USAS allows for the reduced targets. BTW, National Target

http://www.nationaltarget.com/cgi-bin/m ... ry_Code=IP

has the proper targets shown on their site. I prefer American Target in Denver, CO, who ships for free, but I put together orders for our league and buy 5000 (total) targets or more at a time. They don't have a site (that I know of) but they can send a catalog. Their phone is (303) 733-0433.

Please forgive me if our host has these targets, but I haven't seen them in my limited research - just the full sized.

Take Care,
Ed Hall
http://www.airforceshooting.org/
http://www.starreloaders.com/edhall/

FWIW, the gouge that I use is:

Spacing: 75 cm center-to-center @ 25 meters (i.e., 3/4m at 25m).
The proportions stay the same at all distances.
3/4 yard (27 inches) c-t-c at 25 yards
(2)(3/4)=1.5 feet c-t-c at 50 feet (50 being 2 x 25)

That being said, I think that somebody might do very well by making a 5-target roll. Just unroll the blasted thing and you are good to go.

My club already has an 18" spaced 50' target rack. After the new year I plan on setting up a 25 yd very crude line of 5 targets. Unless someone says something officially, I plan on 27" spacing at 25yds.

For training at different distance I think that proportional spacing is very much more important that proportional target!

I run all of our matches at the correct distances and with the official targets so I have not referred to my chart for years.
Looking at the math involved, I think that 27" for the 25yd is probably correct and will change my chart accordingly. I am assuming that perhaps it is a typo.
I am attaching the complete chart of the conversions.