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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:05 pm
by Gerard
Russ; I must say, this obsession of yours with secret identities is rather odd. It's interesting too, as though there may actually be some secret plan afoot to subvert your efforts or just to troll you. I don't know whether you're referring to me, Gerard Ivan Samija, with this nonsense, but it did seem with a couple of your posts in another TT thread that you suspected I was someone other than myself. Why? No idea, it's really quite a strange feeling having my identity, the only name I have had for almost 50 years on this planet, questioned by a complete stranger. With considerable determination and belligerence no less. Very odd.

For my part (and I know, you didn't ask Russ, so I'm not really talking to you with this paragraph and beyond it) I am a beginning AP shooter, having started in December of 2010, and just obtained a Baikal 46m on April 13th so I am at last shooting with a 'real' 10m pistol, and it's FUN! I only yesterday shot my first 540 score, with my average of all scores since getting the Baikal now sitting at 89%. I mention this for frame of reference regarding the following comments.

My perspective on training is not set in stone by any means. Of course it isn't; I'm still a new shooter with a long road ahead before I can confidently say I've reached any sort of a goal. I have achieved steps on the ladder. Or perhaps better to say I've found myself standing on a few foothills of a mountain, ever higher foothills, feeling satisfied that another plateau has been reached while looking down at the path so far hiked, while also looking upwards and seeing the peak partially hidden in the clouds, waiting for the more serious efforts yet to come before reaching it. The goal is always clear enough in my head - 600 points out of 60 shots. The route to achieve this remains partially, though ever less hidden.

The un-veiling of my eyes is coming with study and practice and related training. Weights of various sorts, lifted using various methods, are helping to build both control and resistance to fatigue, while maintaining sufficient restraint that I do not risk injury nor over-work to the point where shooting practice a few hours later suffers excessively. I am taken back to my years of hatha yoga practice during my 20's, where breathing was central to the calming and control of the body and mind, while 'letting go' was equally important. I have been inconsistent in my running in recent years, sometimes pushing hard for a few months then letting it falter for a few more, then having to recover all over again. Shooting has given this a reason, a focus, and so my running is making slow, steady progress. This helps to build efficiency of oxygen uptake, apparently crucial in buying extra seconds of muscular endurance during the hold.

Dry fire is of course new to me, as with my previous springer pistol it was not possible (at least not without ruining the piston and spring), but I am persisting in using this daily, starting with just a few shots last week, now up to about 10 minutes of dry fire before each live fire practice. I will likely settle at around 15 minutes of dry fire per day prior to any pellets going in.

My mental image of the goal is, as I said, a perfect score. Not as a one time thing, but as the ongoing, endless goal. A 10.5 feels satisfying, and 3 or 4 at that score slightly more so... but tinged with the possibility of something still left to reach. The sights are becoming my friend in an odd way. I am appreciating the beauty of symmetry, of alignment between fore and rear sight, my eye, the angle of my head and neck, my body's symmetry and assymetry in the stance, the regulation and timing of my breathing, all come together in a flow which is somewhat like a dance. I've watched Tai Chi but not practiced it, but can see how the slowness of shooting might relate to this sort of martial art. Appreciation of the perfections and imperfections of the body and its motions is part of the glory of training, of shooting.

I read, a lot. Many coaches and shooters and theorists have shared articles on aspects of the mental and physical game of shooting air pistol, and all are useful, even those whose opinions and ideas are not actually useful for a given shooter in a direct sense. Understanding the depth and breadth of approaches to this sport seems critical in the process of building one's own overview, enabling not just a cherry-picking of the 'best' ideas which can lead to a narrow view, but implementing the whole of it as a cohesive vision of what it means to make a shot on a target.

Development of patience with myself is central. The temptations towards anger, disappointment, elation, hope, nervousness, all these and more are potentially at play during a given session. And I've not yet shot in competition, so no doubt will face further distractions of such kinds when that day comes. But I have competed before, as a cross country and track runner, BMX and mountainbike cyclist, high jumper and other stuff. I'm well familiar with the butterflies in the stomach, the escalation of heart rate in the face of that moment when a competition begins, the rush of hormones which radically shift one's awareness in an ancient hard-wired biological habit to prepare for combat. In all sports there is the need to bring to this some measure of control. Perhaps the need is greatest with air pistol shooting, as every stress in the body is reflected in potentially less than perfect shooting.

So I seek that control, seek to find it with every shot, using everything I have so far learned in the effort. Yesterday I found it in about 25% of my shots of that 540/600 session. At least 10% of the shots were let go while 'unconscious' of most of the act of loading, breathing, and letting the shot go... with mixed results, sometimes perfect 10's, sometimes quite far off, including a single '1' score which was almost a '0' as I fired without so intending just at the beginning of a momentary tremor in my arm at about 5 seconds of hold. That shot taught me several things. I learned that I have progressed in mental discipline to the point where I was able to almost completely avoid a surge of disappointment, you know, that rush of chemicals in the brain which can drown one in a sense of futility, of failure. I let it go. Observed it, even cherished it for a moment, but then told myself to let everything about it just go as I prepared for the next 10. The next 4 shots piled on top of each other inside the 10 ring. None of them was connected in any obvious way with the others. Each one I treated as an entity, an individual act sufficient unto itself, each paced like a story all its own.

I'm sounding perhaps excessively mystical about my process, but it seems to me that with shooting there is a mysticism inherent. It is above all a form of meditation. The self must be sacrificed to the shot. The act, the breathing, the pose, the focus, the release, all part of a process of reduction and simplification which I had never before found quite possible in other approaches to meditation. For me at least, my understanding is that this is connected with ego. When I tried, years ago, to meditate in the yogic tradition, it felt false to my ego. Something was missing. With shooting, there is both the letting go of the self (necessary in finding an emotionally neutral state of mind, allowing the body to find stability), and the ultimately satisfying delivery of the shot, the accomplishment of a tangible, recognizable goal, something which any other shooter can look at and understand and even respect. No room for equivocation. A perfect shot is a perfect shot, demonstrating the relative success of the effort behind it. To be able to repeat this process 60 times in a row, and then several times over during a competition, this provides another element of the goal which is very satisfying to the ego. So the mysticism is grounded by the pragmatic.

I don't know that this sort of talk is useful from a beginning shooter, but do hope some small part of it might be so to anyone here seeking more than secret passwords to success and sarcasm regarding internet marketing and secret identities... After all, this is a forum dedicated to sharing information, is it not? Some would have it be a tool for self-promotion. So disappointing, especially when Russ has shown the odd glimmer of genuine concern for his fellow shooters, here and there over the years, when he's able to get past his own ego issues.

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:35 pm
by Russ
Why are you hiding from Canadian target shooting forum if you are real?
You are doing some progress as I see. This is good. Why you still so worried about my personality? I’m fine here. You will be fine too.
If you do not have any concerns to win national march very soon (isn’t it) you are just hobby shooter as all of us, so just relax and have some fun. Let’s encourage other shooters by definition of to take care of our grassroots.
If you are willing to change your game plan by obtaining new goal to compete Get ISSF Coach! End of the story. If you allow me to be short.

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:16 pm
by Gerard
My goal at present is to shoot as perfectly as I am capable of shooting. My path to this, as in all my efforts past including my profession of luthiery, is through study and practice. I do not generally seek the advice of a coach. A failing of my personality perhaps by your estimation, but it is fine with me. I have become a respected, much sought-after luthier, with a long line of musicians waiting for my call to allow them to bring their broken and maladjusted instruments in for repair. This I have accomplished through study of many books and about a quarter century of practice. My other athletic endeavours have been similar, with no direct coaching wanted nor needed. Same with my 'hobby' of about 10 years in the study of the Windows Mobile operating system (now defunct as Microsoft pursues their rather silly Windows Phone OS, so I'm no longer pursuing that line) at the level of extensive registry and software testing, during which my services as a beta tester were employed by over 100 software developers, and for which I was granted a 2010 Microsoft MVP award. I do things well when following my own pace, which tends to be rather quick, and by 're-inventing the wheel' with every such effort. I have found this pattern of learning suits me since early childhood, and was of use in photography, painting, playing the 'cello in several orchestras and chamber groups, and other 'hobbies.' You can suggest whatever you like, as briefly or as lengthily as you prefer, that's your business Russ. But learning is a highly individual process. Unless the individual is able to form a plan which suits them perfectly, they will not excel.

If I want a national coach, I will find one, and if/when that day arrives I will know it. If I am able to reach scores of 570 or better in actual competition several times, I will consider pursuit of shooting at the national and international level, if I have time for this luxury. As it sits today, yes, I am a 'hobby' shooter. I'm not earning a living from shooting at the most obvious level. I doubt more than a handful of 10m shooters earns enough money in the sport even to pay for groceries and rent, plus the odd plane ticket to competitions. In Canada the federal government stipend for Olympic level athletes is below the official poverty line. Shooting can never be a profession, for me, and I do not want it to be one. I will be a luthier for the remainder of my life, as this is my passion, working with wood to make it become beautifully musical. Shooting is a meditation first and foremost, and the focus it has given me has already improved the standard of my work measurably from an already very high standard. In that respect this hobby is useful, professionally. I find it also generally useful in life, as the skills developed in knowing my emotions and moderating them for shooting to improve can be applied in any situation, improving social and business life in meaningful ways.

You ask why I 'hide' on the Canadian shooting forum, CAF? It was not my intention, when I joined a couple of years ago, to hide behind the nicname 'p17' which I use there. When I registered on that forum I tried to use the username I use here, 'Gerard', but it was already taken. I use 'Gerard' in a number of forums (I've told you this in another thread Russ, but you press the point here, so I'm saying it again) related to Pocket PC/Windows Mobile use (over 10,000 posts in half a dozen forums over a decade, well over 1,000,000 words, almost all of it being help offered to other users of these devices who are experiencing problems), tablet PC use (GerardSamija there when Gerard has already been taken), and in the TalkBass.com forums I use GerardSamija as Gerard was taken. As I said, on CAF the name Gerard was taken... I was in a silly mood, and had just purchased a silly toy pistol called a 'Beeman P17' and it seemed kind of funny to register using that term, as my intentions for participation in that forum were not at all serious. I didn't think I'd bother with active membership for more than a month or so. So it seemed in the mood I was in at that moment to be suitably light-hearted to name myself for this obviously toy-like gun. I had at that time no intention of getting any other air pistol, just wanted a plinker to maybe shoot the odd squirrel with (they mess up my garden quite badly, eating figs and walnuts and everything else), and within a week or two I started modifying the thing to look 'steam punk' as a sort of escape from a very busy working schedule, a relief valve for stress. That project sits in a drawer almost-finished, as it just got too silly and the pistol soon stopped working because it is a cheap piece of junk.

I have submitted a request to the CAF administrators to change my ID there from p17 to GerardSamija, and hope that this is possible. If not, I will discontinue using p17 as a username there, re-register as GerardSamija, and put a note to record this change in the signature used in every posting I make there. Thanks for the nudge Russ. It was actually becoming a bit of an embarrassment to me, this p17 nicname, as generally I do not use such silly names in forums, never did it before nor since and it's a mistake I regret. There was no intent of hiding by this name, only a moment of bad decision making which I will now correct.

For the record, if one were to study my 100 or so postings on the CAF forum one would find that a) I list my location as being in Vancouver, Canada. b) I have frequently mentioned in my postings that my work is with instruments, and I generally make no secret of who I am. And c) I keep my proper website address in my public profile there, and if anyone should visit that website - luthier.ca - they will see my proper name, along with my email address and phone number. A simple Google or other reverse lookup of that phone number establishes my full legal name and street address. That is, if you were interested. I welcome visitors if you're ever in Vancouver. I'd love to chat with you about shooting or instruments or whatever else, being a very social animal in nature, and considering that while your personality does at times seem disturbing to me, I always welcome opportunities to have my judgment updated with better information through conversation and experience.

No goal, no hurry, no time pressure! Life is good!

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:33 pm
by Russ
So why are you stalk with me? Why you do not have other targets? I’m just taking care about grassroots here as I was told to do.
I’m just not interested in your case, is it bothering you?
I do not see any reason to help if you don’t know what you want, or just pretending of not telling truth for yourself.
Can I have some freedom too? Or I have to be punished not helping someone who don’t know what to do with his free time?

You can paint your " Pistol Sight Paint" or other recommended activities, as other guys do. If you feel it is not best way to achieve you goal this makes us just buddies it’s all. Let’s get some fun. No goal, no hurry, no time pressure! Life is good!

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:59 pm
by Gerard
No hurry? I'd not say so, in my case. I've gone steadily upwards from average 50% scores in December to average 89% currently. I am somewhat impatient at this slow, at least by my own standards, rate of progress. I hope to have a personal best of 95% or better by the end of 2011 at this point, subject to upwards modification should my progress seem to merit the adjustment of expectation. My long term goal, long term being a year or two from now, remains consistent scoring of 95% or better on average, with a life-long pursuit of perfect scoring with every shot fired. Anything less would seem a waste of time, would it not? Why would anyone settle for less than utter perfection in any effort in life? Of course we seldom achieve such a standard, but is it not one of the cardinal features of we humans, that we pursue excellence? Let the deer and the rabbit stand around munching grass. Let the termite build adequately large nesting mounds. Let the seagull fly only so high, no higher. We humans want more. It's built into our DNA, and in the best examples it takes us upwards and forwards in our development as a species.

Your condescending and paranoid comments do not do you justice Russ. You have shown considerable effort in a few posts in this thread, which I have found genuinely interesting, hence my reading them. Stalking you is again part of your paranoid self. I started reading this thread because the title is, obviously, interesting. Hold... hold... hold... that's interesting to a shooter, especially one so new to it as me. But when you ridicule a shooter, or when you tease with this nonsense about secret passwords to success on page so and so of such and such book, it's frankly beneath you. I think you're a bigger man than that Russ. I'm actually growing to be a bit fond of reading your posts when I run across them, as some show a side of you which isn't quite so obnoxious and reminds me a bit of other Slavs I've known and liked.

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:01 pm
by Greg Derr
More psycho babble wasting bandwidth. We can't miss you when you won't go away. Too bad there are folks here who really want to learn, not listen to someone puff up his chest with self pontificated dribble. I'm still waiting for some original thought.

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:30 pm
by Russ
Your anger will not help you. (Gerard and Greg Deer)
Your goal is still not clear so it will not be achievable. (Gerard)
You will not get anything from my posts, if you are not able to understand me initially. (Gerard and Greg Deer)

You are wrong about books. I spent 8 hours working with my last student on fundamentals based only on one mentioned book. He was happy after all.
I do not tolerate any disrespectful attitude and words as you both show. You did it not only toward me but for everybody who are reading those posts.
It is not my problem but yours.
I can tell as much as I want when I feel it is necessary to help someone who really needs help.
I’m not angry at you. You just missed my point by expressing who you really are and not paying any attention to what I’m talking about.

As an athlete each of us has to learn how to cope with our emotions. This is most valuable asset we can possess after pursuing our goal in Olympic shooting.

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:50 pm
by Greg Derr
Spoken like a true salesman. Or someone who cheated a kid out his spot on the podium.

Re: Dry fire

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:17 am
by Dev
Did you check your local sources? Looks to me that you guys could soon start outsourcing coaches to The USA. :))

Indians For Guns is India's own forum for technical discussion about firearms, firearm advocacy, gun rights, RKBA and shooting sports in India
http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php ... 7&start=45

Dev, I’m also interested to learn from you. Why did Olympic target shooting (ISSF) become suddenly popular in India?
I understand what is going on in Russia, but about India I have no clue.
We can use your help to improve our "grassroots" too.
In this terrible economy we can use the Indian experience to stabilize our economy and to improve Olympic pistol shooting at the same time ;)
I’m glad you came here.[/quote]


Hi Russ,

I am so glad that you found the site Indiansforguns.com, it is my friend's site and I am a moderator on it. The closest that I can come as to an answer as to why Olympic shooting is so popular is because ther is no other shooting sport. We don't have bullseye, field target or metallic silhouette. Firearms are regulated very stiffly and getting a license is for a firearm is very tough and getting tougher. We cannot even import firearms and so small smith & wesson revolvers sell at prices that would make the parent company a billionaire several times over. A twenty year old revolver is sold at some twenty thousand or so Dollars.

The only people who are granted an import permit are those who shoot at the national level and become renowned shots i.e. shoot the Minimum Qualifying Score at the nationals. In a move to encourage the shooting sports air rifles and pistols of 177 caliber are allowed to be imported duty free by those who have a shooting or rifle club membership.

Getting into the shooting sports and becoming a person who represents the country, earns good money. Our top shooters are really rewarded, given government jobs, homes and tons of money. The recent Olympic and Commonwealth Games success has added even more momentum to this.

Apologies for such a lengthy reply.

Regards,

Dev

The Value of the Cheese

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:34 am
by Russ
Thank you Dev. You answered the most important question to be successful in this field. First of all, since you don't have too many choices, you must concentrate on one single task. Prioritize your activities. The second most important thing is to be rewarded. It does not matter who rewards you; the government, or by yourself in your mind that will give you the comfort and pleasure to achieve a certain level of performance. By the way, can you come up with numbers (value of the "cheese" :) in India)?

I hope I do not need to remind the old story of nice piece of cheese, but just in case.

"A fox once saw a crow fly off with a piece of cheese in its beak and land on a tree branch. “That’s for me, as I am a fox,” said Master Reynard. He walked towards the tree. “Good day, Ms. Crow,” he said with a smile. “You look very beautiful today. Your feathers are very attractive. Your eyes are so bright. I feel sure that you have a wonderful voice. Your figure is better than all the other birds’ figures, and I’ll bet your voice is better than all the other birds’ voices. Let me hear you sing a song, and I will always call you the Queen of Birds.” The crow lifted up her head and began to sing as best as she could. The moment she opened her mouth, the piece of cheese fell to the ground, and the Fox grabbed it. “That will do,” said the fox. “That was all I wanted. In exchange for your cheese, I will give you a piece of advice for the future: Don’t trust people who flatter you too much.” – “Don’t trust flatterers.”"


one more Zen story comes to my mind: "A Cup of Tea"

Nan-in, a Japanese master during the Meiji era (1868-1912), received a university professor who came to inquire about Zen.

Nan-in served tea. He poured his visitor's cup full, and then kept on pouring.

The professor watched the overflow until he no longer could restrain himself. "It is overfull. No more will go in!"

"Like this cup," Nan-in said, "you are full of your own opinions and speculations. How can I show you Zen unless you first empty your cup?" "
http://www.ashidakim.com/zenkoans/1acupoftea.html

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:34 pm
by Russ
Dev
PM sent

I was in shook to see

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:38 pm
by Russ
Scores in most cases represent not what you know, but way of your thinking or how you process this information. I was in shook to see how much information Gerard know but he still not able to get in his mind what I told him to do in simple words.

Re: I was in shook to see

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:21 pm
by Gerard
Russ wrote:Scores in most cases represent not what you know, but way of your thinking or how you process this information. I was in shook to see how much information Gerard know but he still not able to get in his mind what I told him to do in simple words.
Oh Russ, how wonderful, you still want to talk about me! I feel so validated! The great Ruslan is talking about Gerard, how special.

Okay, sarcasm aside, what the heck did you sprinkle on your breakfast cereal this morning? I'm supposed to be following your instructions now? When did I ask for your coaching, exactly? You did this exact same thing in another thread. You claimed, at least twice, that I needed your help with something about my shooting. I did not ask for your help there, nor do I ask for it here. I do not, as mentioned earlier, want nor need yours nor anyone else's coaching. I learn as I like to learn, and that is sufficient for my needs, thanks anyway for offering. I'm sure your student who paid for 8 hours of your time feels that they received value for their money, and that is probably important for them. Each of us learns in our own ways, something else which apparently I must repeat, as you seem incapable of paying proper attention to things unless they are drilled over and over. Normally, saying something once to an intelligent listener is considered sufficient...

As for your understanding of my way of thinking... good luck with that. I doubt you even understand your own, given the radical shifts in attitude and perspective evident from your many postings here. A session with you as a coach must be rather entertaining.

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:24 pm
by Russ
Gerard, I'm surprised you still do not like me. :(
I’m not teaching here. The reason why I’m here is for entertainment and opportunity to speak with nice people as you are, and help them convert anger to pleasant respectable score. :)
One more free advice for you: sell your IZH 46 (stock grip is no good for knowledgeable student as you are) I’m not kidding.

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:27 pm
by Gerard
Yes indeed, very entertaining... I hope you are at least considering seeking professional coaching with that schizoid disorder.

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:33 pm
by Russ
You didn't tell us before about this side of you. :0 Are you doctor now? Or just practice without license?

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:43 pm
by Russ
Gerard wrote:Yes indeed, very entertaining... I hope you are at least considering seeking professional coaching with that schizoid disorder.
One more free advice for you: sell your IZH 46 (stock grip is no good for knowledgeable student as you are) I’m not kidding.

You still not able behave yourself, so do not follow my free advice and keep it. You must struggle as anybody else with this grip. :))

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:46 pm
by peterz
Gerard,

The Izzy is a quite nice pistol, except for the grip. You can look at it as I did: a piece of lumber to sculpt to fit your hand exactly (and with your skills that shouldn't be too hard), or you can send it to any of several grip-makers who will carve it to a good shape for you after getting a sketch of your hand and a few measurements. Either is a lot cheaper than selling the gun and getting something else (and the grip on that 'something else' won't be perfect either).

our goal is entertainment

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:53 pm
by Russ
All those exercises with stock grip (IZH-46M) are waste of money or waste of time. Since our goal is entertainment we are cool in any chosen direction. :)

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:11 pm
by peterz
Russ,

Did I say anything about using the IZH-46M with its stock grip? No, I didn't. I suggested shaping it to fit properly.

Sometimes I wonder if you take the time to read a post before firing off an answer.