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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:25 pm
by Russ
"Congratulations on accomplishing your own goals Russ, it feels good, doesn't it?"

Not really, I did not practice hard enough to feel good or any personal satisfaction of my score performance.
Your presumption is not correct again, sorry.

"In case you ever wonder why I've taken to quoting your comments Russ"
I do not wonder of anything any longer. If for any reason it will help you understand something, it is my pleasure to supply you with my posts. My best wishes at the National.

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:30 pm
by Greg Derr
Cost is only relative to the results you want. If you are just starting out shoot local club matches, but shoot matches. If you are planning on making a national development team or national team you will have to fund your way. That's it no sobbing over money please. If you have a thin wallet stay local. Air you truely are dedicated to anything in life you will find a way. Nothing in life worth having comes easy. As for asking champions, sure ask. You will find most winner confident in their skin enough not to fear sharing. Don't limit yourself to just pistol shooters either. I talk to rifle shooters al the time, shot gunners too. Aid you hit it off with some one with skills you admire, keep in contact. I chat with many shooters still, just sometimes as friends. You don't need to feel that the only level worthy of your efforts is making an Olympic Team. Shoot at the level that makes you happy and satisfies you happy. if you have goals work toward them, they are worthy of your efforts. the point after all is self gratification right?

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:35 pm
by Russ
Indeed, it is the nice motivational post, Greg.
Only..."As for asking champions, sure ask. You will find most winner confident in their skin enough not to fear sharing."

How about, if it is not the “fear of sharing”?
How about to share the truth. Tell us about yourself and your coach.

No one can spend enough time after the match to evaluate performance and discuss ways to practice for a new shooter.
It is extremely time-consuming venue.

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:00 pm
by Gerard
Russ wrote: Not really, I did not practice hard enough to feel good or any personal satisfaction of my score performance.
Your presumption is not correct again, sorry.
It was not a presumption which I could get right or wrong Russ. It was a question, and you have answered it well. Dissatisfaction is important motivation.

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:07 pm
by Russ
"Dissatisfaction is important motivation" ?
Dissatisfaction of what?


I did not learn from the match.
I executed what I learned before those matches.

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:14 pm
by Greg Derr
Russ wrote:
No one can spend enough time after the match to evaluate performance and discuss ways to practice for new shooter.
It is extremely time-consuming venue.

Maybe no one was willing to talk with you. But I know first hand many elite shooters who will talk to anyone willing to respecfully LISTEN. I see that is hard for some. Helping shooters is a core belief many US Team members have. It builds a better team and program.

Personally I'm not here to beat my own drum or pat myself on the back. If you (Russ) have a need to know, do your homework. Let's keep on the topic of helping shooters.

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:20 pm
by Russ
About listening skills, it is an old topic.
The problem is not about the lack of Russ’s listening. It is about the real understanding of someone who is looking for help for his real problem, not what he is concerned about in this particular moment.

I am capable to help only in specific conditions.
Those conditions are:
I need a motivated athlete,
I need at least 8 hours of initial consultation time (to evaluate initial performance, create structure, system, and a strategy in future performance) and I hate to work for free :)
If someone is looking for a professional listener, they will demand a payment about $350 an hour.
I will charge less ;)

I’m hoping that “my own drum” can help wake up someone and it can save their time, money, energy and goal from the endless discussion without real progress.

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:38 pm
by Greg Derr
Great!

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:47 pm
by Russ
This is what I'm doing at this moment.
It is working, and I'm happy about it.
:)
My approach is not a model of traditional coaching. It can be better described as consulting. It is more flexible and an accelerated approach to help motivated athletes achieve their goals in a short period of time in a more efficient way.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:46 am
by remmy223
my post about this thread still rings true !! 14 ish posts since my last in this thread and its completely off topic. As usual it has degenerated into another argument between russ and greg and whomever. Now whilst it is mildly entertaining its ruined a perfectly good thread about sports psychology and some good pointers to further reading. please gentlemen get back on topic and stop the pissing contest that has ruined many a good topic.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:18 am
by zuckerman
howdy,
maybe we could change this topic to sniping also? (everybody smile, I mean no disrespect to anybody who posted here) ... even with the off topic bits, there are pointers in this topic that help ap shooters. my thanks to the posters.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:41 am
by Russ
"Sniping" is like "Walking on Thin Ice"
I will not recommend any of my students to look toward that direction.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:33 pm
by Colin
Just out of interest Russ how many students do you currently coach.
Thanks Colin

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:33 pm
by Russ
Dear Colin,

Please tell me how my answer to this question can help you solve your personal problems to move your performance higher. This question should be directed by PM or email.

If you are trying to question my credibility, please tell me who you are and we will continue from this point.

If you are looking for help, send me 9 of your current targets, a goal statement, and we will figure out what we can do for you.

Thank you.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:38 pm
by Chris
Russ,

What can you tell from looking at targets other than a score or if someone should adjust sights? I thought that looking at targets and concluding the person was doing "X" wrong did not really make sense. The person in question could be doing more than one thing wrong at a time making this a difficult way to diagnose a person and performance. I could understand if a person sent you some video or a file from an electronic trainer you could provide some good advise.

If I were to look at using you as a coach I would want to know who you were coaching.

I am sure most people have stopped reading this topic given the last dozen or so responses.

Just in case someone is still reading.....

Greg was on point about getting to as many matches as possible. If there are none around you area set them up yourself and people will show up. you can run a USA shooting match very easy. The more you shoot you will become comfortable about being in a match. Then once or maybe 2 x a year you can travel to a larger match and payout the ~$1k it will cost and this can be your motivation for the year.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:49 pm
by Russ
Chris, what do you know about me?

If you will know what I know, you will score as I can.
If you can’t score as I do, I can probably figure out in 15 minutes why you can’t.
To make sure that I’m correct, I will double check it with your targets.
Thank you for your input.
I participated only once at USAS National in 2007.

Air Pistol: 5th place.
Free Pistol: 7th place.
Standard Pistol: 11th place.

By the way, during the Free pistol match (USAS 2007 National), my TOZ-35m stopped working. I spent about 20 minutes looking around (runing) for a spare trigger unit. Thank Paul for giving it to me to finish the match and participate in the final.
Please tell me about your first USAS National.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:10 pm
by djsomers
I enjoy Russ's posts and if I had the money I would take his two day class.

I may be a little different though, I have two Russian motorcycles, a Russian free pistol, and a Russian air pistol. Have been fortunate enough to have visited motorcycle plant in Siberia twice. Different culture and different way of communicating. It may seem a bit blunt to some of us but its up to each of us to take it or leave it.

Hell, I even have two copies of Yur'yev - Competitive Shooting. One in English and one in Russian (by mistake)!

Lets all take each other for our common ground - we love to shoot.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:34 pm
by Russ
I bet you have an URAL or DNEPR. Those motorcycles are working horses and built as a tank. By the way, it's a BMW. I will be happy to own one someday. My father owned one. It's funny because a few days ago I met a young gentleman who is studying psychology at Eastern Michigan University and he started speaking with me fluently in Russian. I was shocked. He has Spanish roots and he came from California and has never been in Russia. He asked me to help him with the Russian language. He knows all the Russian food stores and restaurants in our area. He also listens to Russian music (CDs) in his car. I have the pleasure to talk to him about psychological aspects of human behavior and achievements.

Thank you for your post and I'm glad my Russian roots and imperfect grammar does not scare you to read my posts.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:11 pm
by djsomers
Russ,

I have two Urals - one with sidecar and one without. I have been to the factory in Irbit twice. Helped them get their US permits. Trips of a lifetime.

The factory under the Soviets could produce 1800 motorcycles/ day. Now they probably make about that many a year but the story is amazing and I am in total awe of what they have gone through to keep the factory going and the changes the people of Russia have seen. Americans have no conception of the hardships and the stamina and perserverence of the Russian people. Simply amazing. My total respect.

I would love to see the Baikal/IZH factory. Perhaps someday.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:17 pm
by djsomers
OK its a bit off topic but you might be wondering what the hell a Russian motorcycle looks like. Well pretty much a 1930's BMW after which they are patterned.[/img]