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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2025 9:26 am
by KZMNT
Grippy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 8:16 am
I'd really like to see the statistics on the "additional point of failure" thing. For one I think it's just not true. Go read some threads about issues people have with mechanical trigger pistols and notice how often people talk about the "sear" or "sear engagement" there. Now guess what an electronic trigger doesn't have on its "critical path". So if anything it's a different point but not additional. And anecdotally people are more likely to have issues with the sears that are subject to mechanical wear etc. than with electronics spontaneously dying.
Just this week actually I was using my P8X again and it wouldn't cock intermittently. I could fix it by readjusting the sear engagement. Still, by comparison I have a over 20 year old CM162EI that is still on the factory trigger settings and works perfectly. I always end up fiddling with the mechanical triggers eventually.
It was always strange to me how people accept mechanical problems just as normal but the moment someone has an issue with an electronic trigger everyone suddenly becomes an opinionated expert on the risks of electronic triggers.
I fully agree. The term for the electronic trigger is already a bit misleading to begin with, the first and second stage weight are still mechanical in principle. Frankly when I look at a FWB or Steyr mechanical trigger group diagram I'd say the electronic pistols replace a lot of components that could fail, not just the sear itself.
Re: Olympic 10m which pistols?
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2025 12:29 pm
by David M
The biggest failure point of any pistol is the NUT on the BUTT.
Shooter's and Coach's that fiddle with triggers without knowing what they are doing.
Take away the allen keys and the cheap leaky batteries and most problems are solved.
Normal wear and tear is expected, springs soften, seals deteriate and leak and parts dry out,
this is normal.
Air tanks age and expire with time.
A annual service will fix most problems and keep everything running just fine.
Re: Olympic 10m which pistols?
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:01 am
by Jetrider
This is kinda what I'm thinking also.
Must be other benefits with an electric trigger and not just the feel of it.
Of course one can be reluctant to things tjwt might occur but I've decided to next pistol will be electric. Not still just thinking on which one.
Keepin an eye out for a newer used one both in steyr and morini
Re: Olympic 10m which pistols?
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:22 pm
by Gwhite
I dry fire a LOT, and I also dry fire with my electronic trainer. One advantage of an electronic trigger is that you can just dry fire again & again, without all that annoying cocking stuff... :) It allows me to concentrate that much more on my shot process & technique.
Re: Olympic 10m which pistols?
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 4:03 pm
by Dr.Bill
Gwhite wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:22 pm
I dry fire a LOT, and I also dry fire with my electronic trainer. One advantage of an electronic trigger is that you can just dry fire again & again, without all that annoying cocking stuff... :) It allows me to concentrate that much more on my shot process & technique.
Your shot process should include loading and all that other annoying stuff.
Re: Olympic 10m which pistols?
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:13 pm
by Gwhite
That part of my shot process is pretty well under control, and I don't recall having an issue with it for several decades. The same cannot be said for my trigger control, now that I am old & a bit shaky.
Re: Olympic 10m which pistols?
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 6:17 am
by m1963
I do not even dry fire anymore. Just hold training...holds for as long as I can, each time. It really helps me, now. We are each at a different place in our training. 😄
Re: Olympic 10m which pistols?
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 8:16 am
by 6string
Jetrider wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:32 am
Is there somewere online and hopefully ok updated info which shooter is using what brand of pistols.
I seen most use Steyr and also sole use pardini.
But would like to have more info which pardini and so on. So if anyone can point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.
This is all fine, as far as curiosity goes. But, don’t get too worried about it.
Remember, the 10M air pistol game literally grew out of the development of the good, ol’ Feinwerkbau Model 65.