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brent375hh wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:27 pm Sometime call Walther / Umarex customer service for your entertainment. See what your impression is. I tried calling 3 times to find out about a Walther product currently on their own website, the FP500. Nobody knew?!? I got passed around and finally disconnected twice. The third time I went to a voicemail, and left a message with my callback number. Never get a call.

I decided that whatever they had, I surely didn't want to holding the bag when a service issue arose. My impression is they mostly sell disposable air guns. I bought a Walther LGV air rifle a few years ago that had a product life of less than a year. I don't expect to find parts when it breaks, and it was a $500 gun.

Rover wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:29 pm I think Champion's Choice serviced Walthers. At least at one time, worked on one of mine.

B Lafferty wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:08 am

Rover wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:29 pm I think Champion's Choice serviced Walthers. At least at one time, worked on one of mine.

Thanks. I'm weighing options to replace my Kite. I'm 71, but hope to live long enough to see another regulator go bust over time like the Kite did. The idea of having another regulator and/or repair service on hand for replacement is appealing.

brent375hh wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:27 pm

B Lafferty wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:08 am

Rover wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:29 pm I think Champion's Choice serviced Walthers. At least at one time, worked on one of mine.

Thanks. I'm weighing options to replace my Kite. I'm 71, but hope to live long enough to see another regulator go bust over time like the Kite did. The idea of having another regulator and/or repair service on hand for replacement is appealing.

I bought a spare regulator for my Steyr, it takes about 5 minutes to change it out. I thought I might need a new one, and the price was right at $260. As it turns out, I just cleaned and lubed my old one first, and it works like a champ again. I am 57, but I do think I am now set for life.

Rover wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:29 pm I think Champion's Choice serviced Walthers. At least at one time, worked on one of mine.

B Lafferty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:11 am It's been noted that Steyr has a regulator that is relatively easy to replace as a complete unit. I noticed in an exploded diagram of the Hammerli AP-20 that the regulator also appears to be a separate, discrete unit. Can anyone confirm that this is in fact what part number 8 is with the AP-20? Diagram can be found here:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bisley-Hammerl ... 4141209013

brent375hh wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 8:20 am

B Lafferty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:11 am It's been noted that Steyr has a regulator that is relatively easy to replace as a complete unit. I noticed in an exploded diagram of the Hammerli AP-20 that the regulator also appears to be a separate, discrete unit. Can anyone confirm that this is in fact what part number 8 is with the AP-20? Diagram can be found here:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bisley-Hammerl ... 4141209013

It sure looks to be. I am quite curious what that ad is for. Did someone have a um are hammer pi that shit the bed and they are now selling it as replacement parts?
With Steyr and Morini being proven performers, you keep inquiring about everything but those two. Just because is has a replaceable unit does mean that you can actually purchase one 10 years from now. Break your piggy bank, buy an LP2, shoot it the rest of your life. Putting new o- rings in a Steyr regulator isn't rocket science.

B Lafferty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:45 am

brent375hh wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 8:20 am

B Lafferty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:11 am It's been noted that Steyr has a regulator that is relatively easy to replace as a complete unit. I noticed in an exploded diagram of the Hammerli AP-20 that the regulator also appears to be a separate, discrete unit. Can anyone confirm that this is in fact what part number 8 is with the AP-20? Diagram can be found here:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bisley-Hammerl ... 4141209013

It sure looks to be. I am quite curious what that ad is for. Did someone have a um are hammer pi that shit the bed and they are now selling it as replacement parts?
With Steyr and Morini being proven performers, you keep inquiring about everything but those two. Just because is has a replaceable unit does mean that you can actually purchase one 10 years from now. Break your piggy bank, buy an LP2, shoot it the rest of your life. Putting new o- rings in a Steyr regulator isn't rocket science.

LOL. I hear you. I'm just cost conscious (some would say cheap) by nature. The LP-2 is definitely on my list. So, if I'm going to pay $1675 for an LP-2, for a mere $275 more I can choose between a Steyr EVO 10 and a Morini 162 EI. I'm inclined to stay with a mechanical trigger. Thoughts? Anyone want to buy a Benelli KIte paper weight? :-)

Coolmeester wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:08 am There is some hype about this gun so I can give my "review" from it. It is a gun made of cheap parts to save manufacturing costs, so it isn't very reliable. The trigger mechanism is very is poorly designed and feels absolutely terrible compared to any rivals (both mec/electronic). 3D/5D grip is a disaster - you cannot place the grip two times exactly the same direction no matter how careful you'd be. 10m sport is so sensitive that even slight angle change can destroy your results totally after charging it and installing the grip again. So better not charge it before competitions.

Rotating front sight isn't optimal because the surface points directly at you in straight angle. I even could see the triangular shape on top while aiming because my aiming area is so far from the black ring, so had to change Steyr front sight to it. In rear sight the elevation control is very poor. Too many mm:s with one click. You can try it by making 10 clicks up - you should be 10mm, max 15mm up from the center, try it yourself where is the shots. Changing Lp400 rear sight helps a lot, actually it is very good. The gun has very low velocity by it's design so it's very hard to find good enough pellet lot for it. I was't happy with the weight distribution and total weight either, but with additional weights it's ok.

Just to mention a few things, but hey! It has metallic trigger guard, must be good!