Any one with experience with U shape rear sight?

If you wish to make a donation to this forum's operation , it would be greatly appreciated.
https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/targettalk?yours=true

Moderators: pilkguns, m1963, David Levene, Spencer, Richard H

Forum rules
If you wish to make a donation to this forum's operation , it would be greatly appreciated.
https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/targettalk?yours=true
Post Reply
Guest

Any one with experience with U shape rear sight?

Post by Guest »

Don Nygord mentioned in his notes that he used a U shpaed rear sight to achieve his best personal record.

Any one with experience using this U shaped rear sight?

I have an unused small IZH 46m rear sight, I am thinking about milling this into a U shaped rear sight.

Before I do this, any comment on this U shaped rear sight? Psychological or is it truely optically advantageous?

What is your personal experience?
paw080
Posts: 258
Joined: Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:30 pm
Location: Corona, California

Post by paw080 »

Hi Guest, Whydon'tcha go ahead and mill away, then let us know what you
think.
Tony G
Spencer
Posts: 1890
Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:13 pm
Location: Sydney, Australia
Contact:

Post by Spencer »

The question made me realise that I was going to square up the rear sight notch on my H208 - was being the operative word!

I have not noticed that it is U-shaped for some time - to busy looking at the front sight.

Spencer.
User avatar
jackh
Posts: 802
Joined: Sat Sep 25, 2004 8:51 pm
Location: Oregon USA

Post by jackh »

I dryfire with an old pellet gun. It's a pretty ideal setup. The rear sight is more a "V" shape and the front sight is pointed, or maybe an upsidedown "V" ^

The combination results in a W sight picture. The side patches of light have a width AND a depth to guide the alignment. I must say it works quite well.
I am just too chicken to "adjust" my real sights to match.
User avatar
Fred Mannis
Posts: 1298
Joined: Sun Aug 29, 2004 8:37 pm
Location: Delaware

U Notch

Post by Fred Mannis »

I think this is what you are looking for: viewtopic.php?t=17647&highlight=notch
spacepilot
Posts: 45
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:54 am
Location: Indiana

Post by spacepilot »

jackh wrote:I dryfire with an old pellet gun. It's a pretty ideal setup. The rear sight is more a "V" shape and the front sight is pointed, or maybe an upsidedown "V" ^

The combination results in a W sight picture. The side patches of light have a width AND a depth to guide the alignment. I must say it works quite well.
I am just too chicken to "adjust" my real sights to match.
jackh, that sight sounds interesting. Do you happen to have a picture of it?

Have anyone tried the trapezoidal sight (G in the following picture). I think it is a good idea, as both horizontal and vertical misalignment will reflect themselves in the change of the air gap.

Image
User avatar
jackh
Posts: 802
Joined: Sat Sep 25, 2004 8:51 pm
Location: Oregon USA

Post by jackh »

spacepilot wrote:
jackh wrote:I dryfire with an old pellet gun. It's a pretty ideal setup. The rear sight is more a "V" shape and the front sight is pointed, or maybe an upsidedown "V" ^

The combination results in a W sight picture. The side patches of light have a width AND a depth to guide the alignment. I must say it works quite well.
I am just too chicken to "adjust" my real sights to match.
jackh, that sight sounds interesting. Do you happen to have a picture of it?

Have anyone tried the trapezoidal sight (G in the following picture). I think it is a good idea, as both horizontal and vertical misalignment will reflect themselves in the change of the air gap.

Image

No picture. But combine C rear and G front. Narrow the V rear a little.

Perhaps the making of the front sight a uniform diamond shape is the key.
Guest

Post by Guest »

I milled the rear sight into a U sight.

This is what I found:

It IS easier to align front and rear sights. Very intuitive.

So my shots go off 1-2 seconds earlier than before.

Just pay attention to elevation alignment, windage alignment is just intuitive.

So the bottom line is: It IS EASIER and QUICKER to align: therefore, shots go off 1-2 seconds earlier. It has not translate into higher score yet. But it just make holding alignment easier and faster.

Less of a struggle to hold alignment with U rear sight.
2650 Plus

U shaped rear notch

Post by 2650 Plus »

Not only do I agree with Don , I also agree with guest posting just above, If you like it , do it. No skilled shooter focusses any where but at top of the front sight as that is the way you achieve a level front soght with the flat top surface of the rear sight. By moving eye focus back and forth across the top of the front sight you can keep it centered in the rear notch. If you focus on the bottom of the front sight you will have trouble doing either. The U shaped rear will not affect your sight allignment so long as your focus is where it should be. Good Shooting Bill Horton
vin
Posts: 95
Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:48 pm
Location: Medford, MA

a little reading...

Post by vin »

Hi,
From Competitive Pistol Shooting, by Dr. Laslo Anatal:
"It helps spot sight misalignment faster: incorrect placing of the foresight will result in a gap which will be unequal not only in width but in length as well"

This would tend to support the above statement of improved speed...
Guest

Post by Guest »

Great explanation why U sight works faster in alignment.
Cricman
Posts: 63
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:46 pm
Location: Fort Worth, TX

Post by Cricman »

If I'm not mistaken, example H is not a legal sight for ISSF pistol shooting; it is a closed or peep sight.

cricman
Post Reply