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Free Pistol Champions 1948-2004
Does anyone have a list of Olympic Free Pistol Champions and the guns that they shot. It would be very neat to see a good list.
Thanks,
Dwight (in need of inspiration)
Thanks,
Dwight (in need of inspiration)
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You can get the list of shooting medalists 1896-2000 from the ISSF web site. All you need to do is add the Athens results (you can't expect the ISSF to have done that yet, only 2 years).
As for the guns used, IMHO, not a hope in Hades.
As for the guns used, IMHO, not a hope in Hades.
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Try this website. It should answer all your questions.
http://www.hickoksports.com/history/ols ... tml#mfreep
Paula
http://www.hickoksports.com/history/ols ... tml#mfreep
Paula
Re: Free Pistol Champions
A useful site but it doesn't list weapons shot.USAMU wrote:Try this website. It should answer all your questions.
http://www.hickoksports.com/history/ols ... tml#mfreep
Paula
Rob.
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Re: Free Pistol Champions
Alas I doubt that anyone bothered to record this information. However apart from a few exceptions, we can probably safely assume the domination of the Toz35 from 1960 onwards and perhaps the early 100 series Hammerli's in the 1950's.RobStubbs wrote:
A useful site but it doesn't list weapons shot.
Rob.
What I do find interesting is the massive jump in winning scores between 1920 and 1936. Does anyone have any suggestion as to what might have caused this? Surely FP design couldn’t have evolved that much in 16 years?
Hi,
The change in scores results from some drastic changes in the rules of the event in 1936. Scores before that date can't realy be compared. From 1936 onwards rule changes have been minor, appart from a change in name Free Pistol -> 50m Pistol and the introduction of the olympic final. Have found no site that lists the pistols, but TOZ - Hammerli (lately a.k.a. Walther :-( ) - Morini have been the main contenders.
Cheers,
Bob
The change in scores results from some drastic changes in the rules of the event in 1936. Scores before that date can't realy be compared. From 1936 onwards rule changes have been minor, appart from a change in name Free Pistol -> 50m Pistol and the introduction of the olympic final. Have found no site that lists the pistols, but TOZ - Hammerli (lately a.k.a. Walther :-( ) - Morini have been the main contenders.
Cheers,
Bob
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There is an excellent, but only german book about Free Pistols, which contains also lists of all FP winners, both world championships (1900 - 2002) and olympics (1896 - 2000) and their pistols (!):
"Scheibenpistolen Entwicklung, Technik"
by Otto Halfmann and Dr. Bruno Brukner
Because the book is printed in "book on demand" process, I assume there won't be any english version in the near future. Halfmann is 80 years now, Brukner around the same age.
I just writing an article about the Haemmerli Free Pistols for VISIER magazine july 2006, relaying on the book and also on info from Ferdinand Hediger, the former Haemmerli CEO. The shooters lists (the top three in each case) are very accurate and validated by several shooters, coaches and collectors.
Unfortunately there is no website for that book, only a (german, sorry) book review (by me) at www.visier.de:
http://www.visier.de//1954.html
"Die Scheibenpistole — Entwicklung, Technik"
von Bruno Brukner und Otto Halfmann.
328 Seiten
ISBN 3-00-0133128-0.
Price: 60 Euro (plus p + p)
Shooting Books,
Curtiusstraße 2,
50935 Köln,
Tel. (0221) 43 44 60,
Fax 4 30 83 07,
E-Mail othalfmann@t-online.de
Caution: it only has a few colour pictures, all the models and (excellent) cut drawings are black and white (but 575 of them...)
There is also a much smaller list of (only) the olympic winners at the Haemmerli website:
http://www.haemmerli.ch/index.php?id=129&L=1
"Scheibenpistolen Entwicklung, Technik"
by Otto Halfmann and Dr. Bruno Brukner
Because the book is printed in "book on demand" process, I assume there won't be any english version in the near future. Halfmann is 80 years now, Brukner around the same age.
I just writing an article about the Haemmerli Free Pistols for VISIER magazine july 2006, relaying on the book and also on info from Ferdinand Hediger, the former Haemmerli CEO. The shooters lists (the top three in each case) are very accurate and validated by several shooters, coaches and collectors.
Unfortunately there is no website for that book, only a (german, sorry) book review (by me) at www.visier.de:
http://www.visier.de//1954.html
"Die Scheibenpistole — Entwicklung, Technik"
von Bruno Brukner und Otto Halfmann.
328 Seiten
ISBN 3-00-0133128-0.
Price: 60 Euro (plus p + p)
Shooting Books,
Curtiusstraße 2,
50935 Köln,
Tel. (0221) 43 44 60,
Fax 4 30 83 07,
E-Mail othalfmann@t-online.de
Caution: it only has a few colour pictures, all the models and (excellent) cut drawings are black and white (but 575 of them...)
There is also a much smaller list of (only) the olympic winners at the Haemmerli website:
http://www.haemmerli.ch/index.php?id=129&L=1
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Hi,
I elaborated a removed German book list later with some magazines "uit journal" and "ISSF NEWS" and other books.
I could verify and prove the rightness of the attached list. exactly thus, it can be that it has errors but in the past the shooters not in such a way changed of weapons and the ammunition as today.
http://www.uploading.com/pt/?get=L3OCFA3F
Thanks,
I elaborated a removed German book list later with some magazines "uit journal" and "ISSF NEWS" and other books.
I could verify and prove the rightness of the attached list. exactly thus, it can be that it has errors but in the past the shooters not in such a way changed of weapons and the ammunition as today.
http://www.uploading.com/pt/?get=L3OCFA3F
Thanks,
Free Pistol scores post 1980
If I wasn't reluctant to be suspicious I would wonder if the drugs committee had'nt started to identify some of the unusal substances in the shooters bloodstream
John Smith
John Smith
Re: Link is broken
Hi fsmte,
Regards, markus
your link www.uploading.com/pt/?get=L3OCFA3F is broken. Additionally, you don't tell about its content.fsmte wrote:Hi,
I elaborated a removed German book list later with some magazines "uit journal" and "ISSF NEWS" and other books.
I could verify and prove the rightness of the attached list. exactly thus, it can be that it has errors but in the past the shooters not in such a way changed of weapons and the ammunition as today.
http://www.uploading.com/pt/?get=L3OCFA3F
Thanks,
Regards, markus
List is in Wikipedia
Hi,
You can find the champions' list in Wikipedia, as well but, alas, not the guns used.
I've been looking for a similar kind of listing but also for the world champions' guns in center fire pistol as well as standard pistol. For the free pistol (and rapid fire) I have more of an academic interest, but the center fire and standard are really what intrigue me.
- Larry
You can find the champions' list in Wikipedia, as well but, alas, not the guns used.
I've been looking for a similar kind of listing but also for the world champions' guns in center fire pistol as well as standard pistol. For the free pistol (and rapid fire) I have more of an academic interest, but the center fire and standard are really what intrigue me.
- Larry
Re: Link is broken
It was nearly two years ago !, and it worked fine then.Markus wrote: your link www.uploading.com/pt/?get=L3OCFA3F is broken. Additionally, you don't tell about its content.
Regards, markus
Rob.
Re: Link is broken
Hi Rob,
Regards, markus
Thanks, I will try again on weekend.RobStubbs wrote:It was nearly two years ago !, and it worked fine then.Markus wrote: your link www.uploading.com/pt/?get=L3OCFA3F is broken. Additionally, you don't tell about its content.
Regards, markus
Rob.
Regards, markus