WHERE TO FIND RAPID TARGET SPACING @ DIFF. DISTANCES

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Lonnie
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WHERE TO FIND RAPID TARGET SPACING @ DIFF. DISTANCES

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Where can I find the target spacing requirements for rapid fire at 50 feet, 25 yards, and 25 meters respectively?

Also, is there a "B-XX" designation to a rapid fire target at 25 yards reduced? I can only find the 50 foot and 25 meter targets at Champions Choice in Nashville, TN. Is there another source I should be looking at for targets?

Thanks in advance,

Lonnie Meyers
Round Rock, TX
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RF Reduced Targets

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These are the reduced targets for Rapid Fire Pistol:

Distance / Targets:
• 25 M on B-37 (official) - Target Center to Center = 29.5 in.
• 25 yd on B-38 (official) - Target Center to Center = 29.5 in.
• 50 ft on B-39 (official) - Target Center to Center = 18 in.
• 18.5 ft on B-2 (simulated) - Target Center to Center = 6.7 in.
o Error: 10 ring = 18.8 ft, 9=17.8, 8=17.9, 7=18.8, 6=20.6,
5=23.2, AVG = 19.5 ft.
• 14 ft on B-40 (simulated) – Ctr to Ctr = 5.0 in.
o Error: 10 ring = 9.4 ft, 9=12.5, 8=13.7, 7=14.4, 6=14.8,
5=15.0, AVG = 13.3 ft.
• 9.2 ft on TQ-6 (simulated) – Ctr to Ctr = 3.3 in.

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Post by Sandy »

Most of the targets are available from ALCO TARGET CO. except for the Edelman and Kruger targets which are imported from Europe.
Go to www.alcotarget.com
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Rapid target spacing, target sources...

Post by Lonnie »

Sandy,

Thanks for the info.

I had tried the USAS site and ISSF site that seemed to have everything but the spacing.

After reading the ISSF specific and general rules/regulations I had no idea that even the bay dimensions where the shooter stands and the roof (overhead clearance) were so distinctly defined.

Happy Holidays!

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Post by jackh »

Sandy wrote:These are the reduced targets for Rapid Fire Pistol:

Distance / Targets:
• 25 M on B-37 (official) - Target Center to Center = 29.5 in.
• 25 yd on B-38 (official) - Target Center to Center = 29.5 in.
• 50 ft on B-39 (official) - Target Center to Center = 18 in.
.............
Curious. They are so technical every where else. Why not reduce the c-c for 25yds proportionately? I know it is not much, but like I said, they are so particular for other stuff.
Ed Hall

Post by Ed Hall »

• 25 M on B-37 (official) - Target Center to Center = 29.5 in.
• 25 yd on B-38 (official) - Target Center to Center = 29.5 in.
I wonder if that might be a typo. It would seem 27 in. would be desired. I haven't found any official reference anywhere, though. The targets are referenced, but not the spacing.

Sandy, could you point me to a spacing reference I can use for future review?

I've noticed the USAS has a short message from National Pistol Team Coach Sergey Luzov which references the ability to hold PTOs by acoustic shot timer:
Further, USA Shooting General Technical Rule 6.3.17B permits PTOs to be held using acoustic shot timers o­n stationary targets. Now all a club needs to hold a Rapid Fire match is a place to hang five targets at the correct spacing, a target backer to staple the targets to, an acoustic shot timer, and a half-dozen bullseye shooters who can shoot with their Hammerli 208s or Smith & Wesson Model 41s.
See:

http://www.usashooting.com/modules.php? ... &artid=244

for the full page.

I would have expected the spacing to be referenced in the USAS rules (but not ISSF) since USAS allows for the reduced targets. BTW, National Target

http://www.nationaltarget.com/cgi-bin/m ... ry_Code=IP

has the proper targets shown on their site. I prefer American Target in Denver, CO, who ships for free, but I put together orders for our league and buy 5000 (total) targets or more at a time. They don't have a site (that I know of) but they can send a catalog. Their phone is (303) 733-0433.

Please forgive me if our host has these targets, but I haven't seen them in my limited research - just the full sized.

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Ed Hall
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Mike McDaniel

Post by Mike McDaniel »

FWIW, the gouge that I use is:

Spacing: 75 cm center-to-center @ 25 meters (i.e., 3/4m at 25m).
The proportions stay the same at all distances.
3/4 yard (27 inches) c-t-c at 25 yards
(2)(3/4)=1.5 feet c-t-c at 50 feet (50 being 2 x 25)
Mike McDaniel

Post by Mike McDaniel »

That being said, I think that somebody might do very well by making a 5-target roll. Just unroll the blasted thing and you are good to go.
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Post by jackh »

My club already has an 18" spaced 50' target rack. After the new year I plan on setting up a 25 yd very crude line of 5 targets. Unless someone says something officially, I plan on 27" spacing at 25yds.
Pär

Post by Pär »

For training at different distance I think that proportional spacing is very much more important that proportional target!
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Post by Sandy »

I run all of our matches at the correct distances and with the official targets so I have not referred to my chart for years.
Looking at the math involved, I think that 27" for the 25yd is probably correct and will change my chart accordingly. I am assuming that perhaps it is a typo.
I am attaching the complete chart of the conversions.
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