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Jose Rossy
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No Joke!Jose Rossy wrote:Is this a joke?
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Sideeffects in Olympic Style Shooting by MidwestacademyTSUSA
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Jose Rossy
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My apologies. I could not quite understand if this was an ad, testimonial, spam, or something else.Russ wrote:"The U.S. is a country with rich traditions of firearms manufacturing, and now the time has come for US to take OUR place on the World podium of marksmanship and knowledge of firearms."Jose Rossy wrote:Is this a joke?
This is from mission statement from Midwest Academy of Target Shooting USA
Sincerely
Rouslan Diatlov
Your English is definitely better than my Russian.
I too share your confusion as to why true competitive shooting is so poorly accepted here, while Europeans participate in numbers far out of proportion to their population compared to us.
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Steve Swartz
Russ:
Perhaps the communication problem is not with the message you are sending, but the message you are not receiving.
All of your postings have indeed been entirely too clear.
The reason why some appear to be upset with you is not because they *don't* understand the nature of your posts, but that they *do* understand the nature of your posts.
You are advertising- spamming- low-content crap in an inappropriate forum. Read the web site charter . . . notice how we don't have a lot of advertisements in the content threads?
Pay for your marketing campaign honestly like everyone else.
And Word Up- the "oh I'm sorry I didn't explain myself" reason for re-posting the same advertising ploy might have been accepted out of gentlemanly politeness the first couple of times, but c'mon.
If you have any actual content to contribute, I can speak for myself and say that I at least would be delighted to see it and respond/discuss as appropriate. However, still speaking only for myself, you are rapidly destroying whatever goodwill or benefit of the doubt you may have initially enjoyed.
Steve Swartz
Perhaps the communication problem is not with the message you are sending, but the message you are not receiving.
All of your postings have indeed been entirely too clear.
The reason why some appear to be upset with you is not because they *don't* understand the nature of your posts, but that they *do* understand the nature of your posts.
You are advertising- spamming- low-content crap in an inappropriate forum. Read the web site charter . . . notice how we don't have a lot of advertisements in the content threads?
Pay for your marketing campaign honestly like everyone else.
And Word Up- the "oh I'm sorry I didn't explain myself" reason for re-posting the same advertising ploy might have been accepted out of gentlemanly politeness the first couple of times, but c'mon.
If you have any actual content to contribute, I can speak for myself and say that I at least would be delighted to see it and respond/discuss as appropriate. However, still speaking only for myself, you are rapidly destroying whatever goodwill or benefit of the doubt you may have initially enjoyed.
Steve Swartz
Russ,
I have re-opened this discussion. You are certainly welcome to post here, but I would prefer you post discussion type items, not constant advertisements as others have mentioned. If you have something special going on, a clinic somewhere or something, then yes, it's OK to tell us about it. But constantly telling us about your school, is as others have mentioned, nothing but an advertisement and that gets old fast.
There a number of recent threads in Shooter's Lounge and the Pistol forum where your expertise would valuable, Calming myself, trigger control, mental aspects, are all recent posts that you could give your thoughts, advice and wisdom that would be good for everyone. Thiswould give the readers a small taste of what your school and teaching abilities are like, and if they like what they taste, they might be willing to spend a few dollars to come and take you one of your classes. A more subtle advertising approach if you will.
Best Regards
Scott
I have re-opened this discussion. You are certainly welcome to post here, but I would prefer you post discussion type items, not constant advertisements as others have mentioned. If you have something special going on, a clinic somewhere or something, then yes, it's OK to tell us about it. But constantly telling us about your school, is as others have mentioned, nothing but an advertisement and that gets old fast.
There a number of recent threads in Shooter's Lounge and the Pistol forum where your expertise would valuable, Calming myself, trigger control, mental aspects, are all recent posts that you could give your thoughts, advice and wisdom that would be good for everyone. Thiswould give the readers a small taste of what your school and teaching abilities are like, and if they like what they taste, they might be willing to spend a few dollars to come and take you one of your classes. A more subtle advertising approach if you will.
Best Regards
Scott
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Steve Swartz
Russ:
We have several threads in our history dealing specifically with problems, issues, etc. in developing our national shooting program and teams. Perhaps a review of the ground we in this forum have already hashed over might be in order.
The role/composition of our national governing body, activities both supported and unsupported, team selection procedures, composition of teams, role of NRA vs. USAS, dearth of "grass roots efforts," are but a small fraction of the many issues we have discussed fairly thoroughly in the last year.
We are all certainly delighted to get a fresh perspective on a viable "way ahead" for the olympic disciplines in the USA . . . not that we are necessarily out of ideas, but many of the best ideas rely on national governing body support or buy-in.
Welcome to the fray . . .
Steve Swartz
(p.s. a lack of knowledge re: how to shoot a ten does not seem to be a central issue at this time?)
We have several threads in our history dealing specifically with problems, issues, etc. in developing our national shooting program and teams. Perhaps a review of the ground we in this forum have already hashed over might be in order.
The role/composition of our national governing body, activities both supported and unsupported, team selection procedures, composition of teams, role of NRA vs. USAS, dearth of "grass roots efforts," are but a small fraction of the many issues we have discussed fairly thoroughly in the last year.
We are all certainly delighted to get a fresh perspective on a viable "way ahead" for the olympic disciplines in the USA . . . not that we are necessarily out of ideas, but many of the best ideas rely on national governing body support or buy-in.
Welcome to the fray . . .
Steve Swartz
(p.s. a lack of knowledge re: how to shoot a ten does not seem to be a central issue at this time?)
Why with soccer and not shooting?
Several reasons come to mind. Soccer has its "Moms". Soccer doesn't require substantial investment in equipment. The general public percieves no lethal danger in playing soccer. Soccer can begin at a much earlier age. Shooting requires discipline and training in a much more controlled and dedicated fashion. I could go on. Precision shooting does not coincide with the proliferation of combat-style gaming that permeates video or electronic media. All that being said, we (who enjoy the sport) need to exhort the rewards for the effort it takes. We have the opportunity every time we tell people what we do for fun. We have the chance to explain the challenge and invite participants. It is not likely that we will ever enjoy the global appeal of large team sports. Tennis has more access while being an individual sport....as does golf. We need to advocate that shooting well CAN be done by most people and that it CAN be safe and that it IS FUN. I am intrigued with Russ and his efforts. I feel that Scott is on the money about how posts should remain in this forum, albeit I would not know about Russ if he had not posted here. Dilemma. Let's not be too harsh on Russ for trying to advance the sport. At the same time, substantive posts will only enhance the perception of his expertise and in the long run, benefit his enterprise. We are a nation of entrepreneurs too. IMHO FWIW CraigE
One further thought (and no heresy)
No one in this forum will take Scott Pilkington to task for including Target Talk as a link/component of his website. This forum is indeed a valuable public service. Pilkington Competition enjoys well deserved kudos for their continued excellence in service and knowledge. There are many posts here to attest to the aforementioned. Yet, I am quite sure that Scott would do business solely on the basis of integrity and competence, but it sure doesn't hurt that Target Talk connects to pilkguns.com. My
point is that talking the talk is ok when you walk the walk. MHO, CraigE
point is that talking the talk is ok when you walk the walk. MHO, CraigE