I have a broken Aluminum Anschutz Rifle stock that I want to weld back together and I need to know if,
1. anyone has ever doen this?
2. What the chemical makeup of the stock is.
3. Does anyone have any other sugestions.
Broken Rifle Stock Need to Weld
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From what I understand, Anschutz uses a powder casting process for the stocks. Inexpensive when compared to machining a stock out of a piece of aircraft grade aluminum plate (such as the FWB).
I have heard about 7 cases of the Anschutz aluminum stocks breaking so far. This is certainly nothing new.
As for repair, it should be able to be weld repaired. If memory serves correct, the aluminum needs to be preheated prior to the welding. It has been about 10 years since I had to deal with that type of thing...
Might also want to try to check on the stock alignment prior to repair. It may have sligtly bent the area that failed. In addition, remember to retest all of the rifle torque/tuner settings as they will be different with the repaired stock.
Hope it works out.
Ken
I have heard about 7 cases of the Anschutz aluminum stocks breaking so far. This is certainly nothing new.
As for repair, it should be able to be weld repaired. If memory serves correct, the aluminum needs to be preheated prior to the welding. It has been about 10 years since I had to deal with that type of thing...
Might also want to try to check on the stock alignment prior to repair. It may have sligtly bent the area that failed. In addition, remember to retest all of the rifle torque/tuner settings as they will be different with the repaired stock.
Hope it works out.
Ken
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just another hapenny worth for information.
Aluminium (& associated alloys) usually hardens with age. The rate this ageing occurs at of course varies with the exact alloy used, but generally speaking an al. casting is soft for a few days after manufacture, & then gets progressively harder (and therefore more likely to fracture rather than bend). This is why aluminium framing used in aircraft have a certified lifespan & need periodic replacement. (its also why those who bend aluminium parts during a manufacturing process must get the material on site & bent usually within a few days of the stuff being cast at the factory supplying it). Point is therefore that the older an aluminium stock is, the harder the mateiral will have become, and therefore in general it will tend to be more likely to fracture in response to a shock loding (like dropping it onto butt) rather than bend a bit & bounce. Usage also hardens some areas of the material more than others. Repeated stressing of the mateial can similarly cause weak areas (therefore more brittle therefore more likely to fail here than elsewhere). It might be worth asking the maker how long they expect their product to last, ie. years, or , hours of use, or shots, etc. They must have done this as researh prior to releasing the product (unless its very old now). If you ask nicely, you might even get the assistance you need directly.
Hope ive bored you all enough now ! regards Solon (UK).
Aluminium (& associated alloys) usually hardens with age. The rate this ageing occurs at of course varies with the exact alloy used, but generally speaking an al. casting is soft for a few days after manufacture, & then gets progressively harder (and therefore more likely to fracture rather than bend). This is why aluminium framing used in aircraft have a certified lifespan & need periodic replacement. (its also why those who bend aluminium parts during a manufacturing process must get the material on site & bent usually within a few days of the stuff being cast at the factory supplying it). Point is therefore that the older an aluminium stock is, the harder the mateiral will have become, and therefore in general it will tend to be more likely to fracture in response to a shock loding (like dropping it onto butt) rather than bend a bit & bounce. Usage also hardens some areas of the material more than others. Repeated stressing of the mateial can similarly cause weak areas (therefore more brittle therefore more likely to fail here than elsewhere). It might be worth asking the maker how long they expect their product to last, ie. years, or , hours of use, or shots, etc. They must have done this as researh prior to releasing the product (unless its very old now). If you ask nicely, you might even get the assistance you need directly.
Hope ive bored you all enough now ! regards Solon (UK).
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mikersa
broken rifle stock need to weld
Before welding please contact Uwe or Dieter Anschutz in Germany
they are great guys and might help you before you go out and weld.
If you weld contact The American Institute of Welding for a weld spec.
They will most probably refer you to a shop in your area for a pro. repair
When finished ask them to radius the repaired area and polish possibly
shotpeen as well. Earlier Ansc. alu stocks had a sharp niche in the step
down at the rear of the stock, being cast it would not stand up to impact
like when the airways throw things around. I notice that the recent stocks
from Ansc. are radiused in that area where your failure occured they also
seem to be polished so those of you that have older stocks should do
yourselves a favour by radiusing and polishing any sharp corners and
go to the closest performance shop who shotpeen conrods and
get stock done too it will last forever.
Mike.
they are great guys and might help you before you go out and weld.
If you weld contact The American Institute of Welding for a weld spec.
They will most probably refer you to a shop in your area for a pro. repair
When finished ask them to radius the repaired area and polish possibly
shotpeen as well. Earlier Ansc. alu stocks had a sharp niche in the step
down at the rear of the stock, being cast it would not stand up to impact
like when the airways throw things around. I notice that the recent stocks
from Ansc. are radiused in that area where your failure occured they also
seem to be polished so those of you that have older stocks should do
yourselves a favour by radiusing and polishing any sharp corners and
go to the closest performance shop who shotpeen conrods and
get stock done too it will last forever.
Mike.
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mikersa
broken rifle stock need to weld
Before welding please contact Uwe or Dieter Anschutz in Germany
they are great guys and might help you before you go out and weld.
If you weld contact The American Institute of Welding for a weld spec.
They will most probably refer you to a shop in your area for a pro. repair
When finished ask them to radius the repaired area and polish possibly
shotpeen as well. Earlier Ansc. alu stocks had a sharp niche in the step
down at the rear of the stock, being cast it would not stand up to impact
like when the airways throw things around. I notice that the recent stocks
from Ansc. are radiused in that area where your failure occured they also
seem to be polished so those of you that have older stocks should do
yourselves a favour by radiusing and polishing any sharp corners and
go to the closest performance shop who shotpeen conrods and
get stock done too it will last forever.
Mike.
they are great guys and might help you before you go out and weld.
If you weld contact The American Institute of Welding for a weld spec.
They will most probably refer you to a shop in your area for a pro. repair
When finished ask them to radius the repaired area and polish possibly
shotpeen as well. Earlier Ansc. alu stocks had a sharp niche in the step
down at the rear of the stock, being cast it would not stand up to impact
like when the airways throw things around. I notice that the recent stocks
from Ansc. are radiused in that area where your failure occured they also
seem to be polished so those of you that have older stocks should do
yourselves a favour by radiusing and polishing any sharp corners and
go to the closest performance shop who shotpeen conrods and
get stock done too it will last forever.
Mike.