Looking at running a rapidfire camp in the future for State team shooter's.
What are some good range training drills for team level shooters ?
25m Electronic range with finals range.
Thnking of doing some drills then either half or full match, finishing with full finals or two.
Any/all suggestions welcome.
Rapidfire Pistol Training Drills
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Re: Rapidfire Pistol Training Drills
Please understand that the following does not come from a champion rapid fire competitor. I am not. However, I have done a lot of research into the subject and what it takes. The following is a summary of what I have read to date:
Rapid Fire is a match of muscle memory. Dry fire is your friend. Fifty thousand lifts, and you will start to get smooth. It is a lot less expensive to do this dry fire rather than wasting ammo.
Shoot one shot at a time on just one rapid target, using the sport pistol rapid fire timing of 3 seconds to raise from a 45 degree down position and shoot a single shot. Continue just this until nearly all shots are a 9 or 10 and always less than 3 seconds time (ideally about 2.5 seconds or so). Work on developing a fast initial lift with a slowed down glide into the target centre so you come to a stop dead centre without bouncing around. Pick up the front sight and focus on it during the lift – do not focus on the target. Break the shot without disturbing sight alignment. The first shot is the foundation for the series. If it does not go well, the rest of a series is very likely to also be poor.
Upon achieving step 1 goal, add a second target to the left of the first one and shoot two shot drills until both targets are nearly always 9s or 10s. The second shot should be about 1.25 seconds after the first. Use of a shooting timer (apps are also available) to record the timing of shots is beneficial. If you can program the timer for multiple beeps, you can use that to help develop a cadence to follow.
Add targets (up to 5) only after achieving the goal with current number.
Once you can get 9s and 10s on all 5 targets, start over again with a 6 second cadence (2 seconds + 1 second for each additional shot is 6 seconds, so you need to be slightly quicker than that), then finally work on the 4 second series (1.5 seconds + .625 seconds for the rest is 4 seconds). Some people shoot the first shot faster or slower, then adjust timing on the others.
Feet are a bit wider apart than in precision shooting. This helps with managing the recoil and also to raise the gun from 45 degrees.
Your grip has to be firmer than in precision shooting, this is a more dynamic discipline.
Train the movements first, without caring about time. Once you feel comfortable with them then you will start training within the allotted times.
Wrist lock and trigger release make all the difference. Make sure that you don’t unlock the wrist between shots and don’t jerk the trigger.
Your upper torso is locked, you move the whole of it not your arm. You have to pivot on your hip.
Stop on your target and shoot. Never shoot while moving.
After your last target keep the movement as if you where to shoot an extra imaginary target.
Use a chronometer in the competitions and training for the one minute set-up time. You will internalise it a bit, but it is important to have the reference and not be caught off guard. At 55 seconds point to the target and hold it until the light turns red or the referee shouts ‘Attention’, then slowly lower the gun to 45 degrees and check that the lock and grip are good, always with your eyes on the target.
Get help from somebody or use a mirror to learn where your 45 degree is. Memorise the sensations so you always know where you are. Some people prefer to have their arm lower, it is up to you, but always memorise the sensations of the position.
When you are at 45 degrees, reach the break wall of the second stage of your trigger (no slack to catch up to later).
Raise your weapon in a controlled manner as fast as you can always looking at the target. As the pistol comes into view slow down until you reach your firing area and change focus to the sights. Don’t lower your eyes to look at the gun, it will slow you down.
If the target is the same as in precision shooting, don’t change your aiming, keep it under 6 o’clock. In the other cases, like when using the rapid fire five targets, aim your gun to the centre. You will need to keep track of the clicks needed and in which direction to make sure that this transition is easy and error less.
Your sights should be aligned when you reach your aiming area (with a little bit of practice they will be!). You will develop a very strong memory of the feeling of your whole arm and hand.
Get used to shooting smoothly every time. It is easier to do when you are practicing without time.
Develop a shooting rhythm.
In multiple shot rapid fire disciplines, the first shot is the hardest and most important one, so give it more time than the rest. It is important to keep the sensation and memory of a good shot for the rest. Give it about 3 seconds.
REMEMBER
Natural alignment
Sight alignment
Trigger release
Follow through
Rapid Fire is a match of muscle memory. Dry fire is your friend. Fifty thousand lifts, and you will start to get smooth. It is a lot less expensive to do this dry fire rather than wasting ammo.
Shoot one shot at a time on just one rapid target, using the sport pistol rapid fire timing of 3 seconds to raise from a 45 degree down position and shoot a single shot. Continue just this until nearly all shots are a 9 or 10 and always less than 3 seconds time (ideally about 2.5 seconds or so). Work on developing a fast initial lift with a slowed down glide into the target centre so you come to a stop dead centre without bouncing around. Pick up the front sight and focus on it during the lift – do not focus on the target. Break the shot without disturbing sight alignment. The first shot is the foundation for the series. If it does not go well, the rest of a series is very likely to also be poor.
Upon achieving step 1 goal, add a second target to the left of the first one and shoot two shot drills until both targets are nearly always 9s or 10s. The second shot should be about 1.25 seconds after the first. Use of a shooting timer (apps are also available) to record the timing of shots is beneficial. If you can program the timer for multiple beeps, you can use that to help develop a cadence to follow.
Add targets (up to 5) only after achieving the goal with current number.
Once you can get 9s and 10s on all 5 targets, start over again with a 6 second cadence (2 seconds + 1 second for each additional shot is 6 seconds, so you need to be slightly quicker than that), then finally work on the 4 second series (1.5 seconds + .625 seconds for the rest is 4 seconds). Some people shoot the first shot faster or slower, then adjust timing on the others.
Feet are a bit wider apart than in precision shooting. This helps with managing the recoil and also to raise the gun from 45 degrees.
Your grip has to be firmer than in precision shooting, this is a more dynamic discipline.
Train the movements first, without caring about time. Once you feel comfortable with them then you will start training within the allotted times.
Wrist lock and trigger release make all the difference. Make sure that you don’t unlock the wrist between shots and don’t jerk the trigger.
Your upper torso is locked, you move the whole of it not your arm. You have to pivot on your hip.
Stop on your target and shoot. Never shoot while moving.
After your last target keep the movement as if you where to shoot an extra imaginary target.
Use a chronometer in the competitions and training for the one minute set-up time. You will internalise it a bit, but it is important to have the reference and not be caught off guard. At 55 seconds point to the target and hold it until the light turns red or the referee shouts ‘Attention’, then slowly lower the gun to 45 degrees and check that the lock and grip are good, always with your eyes on the target.
Get help from somebody or use a mirror to learn where your 45 degree is. Memorise the sensations so you always know where you are. Some people prefer to have their arm lower, it is up to you, but always memorise the sensations of the position.
When you are at 45 degrees, reach the break wall of the second stage of your trigger (no slack to catch up to later).
Raise your weapon in a controlled manner as fast as you can always looking at the target. As the pistol comes into view slow down until you reach your firing area and change focus to the sights. Don’t lower your eyes to look at the gun, it will slow you down.
If the target is the same as in precision shooting, don’t change your aiming, keep it under 6 o’clock. In the other cases, like when using the rapid fire five targets, aim your gun to the centre. You will need to keep track of the clicks needed and in which direction to make sure that this transition is easy and error less.
Your sights should be aligned when you reach your aiming area (with a little bit of practice they will be!). You will develop a very strong memory of the feeling of your whole arm and hand.
Get used to shooting smoothly every time. It is easier to do when you are practicing without time.
Develop a shooting rhythm.
In multiple shot rapid fire disciplines, the first shot is the hardest and most important one, so give it more time than the rest. It is important to keep the sensation and memory of a good shot for the rest. Give it about 3 seconds.
REMEMBER
Natural alignment
Sight alignment
Trigger release
Follow through
Re: Rapidfire Pistol Training Drills
Thanks Peter,
One drill I do have and have been using for a long time live fire is..
Set the timer to 5 by 3 sec/7sec time.
Load 6 rounds.
8 sec Training, first shot and transition, (break 2.0-2.6 sec) Six lifts total.
- lift and fire then traverse to second target but do not fire on each appearance.
6 sec Training, first and second shot. (Break 1.6-1.8 sec then 0.8 sec) Three lifts total.
- lift and fire then traverse to second target, second shot then traverse to third target but do not fire on each appearance.
4 sec Training. (Break 1.5-1.6 sec then 0.6 sec) Two lifts total.
- lift and fire then traverse to second and third target, traverse to fourth target but do not fire.
Seems to be the best value for money with live fire.
One drill I do have and have been using for a long time live fire is..
Set the timer to 5 by 3 sec/7sec time.
Load 6 rounds.
8 sec Training, first shot and transition, (break 2.0-2.6 sec) Six lifts total.
- lift and fire then traverse to second target but do not fire on each appearance.
6 sec Training, first and second shot. (Break 1.6-1.8 sec then 0.8 sec) Three lifts total.
- lift and fire then traverse to second target, second shot then traverse to third target but do not fire on each appearance.
4 sec Training. (Break 1.5-1.6 sec then 0.6 sec) Two lifts total.
- lift and fire then traverse to second and third target, traverse to fourth target but do not fire.
Seems to be the best value for money with live fire.
Re: Rapidfire Pistol Training Drills
Foud a couple of Rapidfire coaching Youtubes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrnZsOOp3P0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUioCXndzLw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrnZsOOp3P0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUioCXndzLw
Re: Rapidfire Pistol Training Drills
Hi,
May a Steyr LP50E be helpful in the beginning to save cost?
I have, with 5 tubes filld with air you can fire a 500 at one session.
May a Steyr LP50E be helpful in the beginning to save cost?
I have, with 5 tubes filld with air you can fire a 500 at one session.