Black powder gun

[kimbo]

would anyone know if you can still buy a new ruger old army black powder gun to shoot the 25m and 50m matches in australia. I cant find anyone that has them for sale and there are only a couple of second hand ones on the gun sales sites.

[Mike M.]

The Ruger Old Army won’t qualify under MLAIC rules. And they are no longer in production.

[kimbo]

Thanks for that, what gun do people use to shoot black powder matches? Im new to all this and just trying to get started.

[rmca]

For target shooting, under MLAIC rules, you want a close frame revolver.
The two best are, in my opinion, the 1858 Remington New Army and the Roger's&Spencer revolver.
Davide Pedersoli makes a reproduction of the 1858
https://www.davidepedersoli.com/en/prod ... oli-target

Hope this helps

[Spencer]

I think Kimbo is referring to the Pistol Australia Black Powder matches (https://pistol.org.au/wp-content/upload ... -Rules.pdf ).

The Ruger Old Army qualifies for these.

[kimbo]

Yes Spencer the pistol australia 25m match is the one I want to shoot. I would probably buy a new pistol if there is such a thing available but its hard to get any info on gear used for the match.

[David M]

No longer available new, need to look on the Used guns web site.
https://usedguns.com.au/guns/used_lever ... ackpowder/
They go for $1000-$1200, be careful asparts are hard to get.

[kimbo]

Thank you David M, is there any other make I should look at other than the Ruger

[David M]

Couple of Italian 1858 Remingtons, but they all need work to make competitive.
Try for a good used Old Army to start.
My 25m gun's are a well modified Uberti .36 Remington or my very old Hege Remington and well worn .44.

[6string]

Couple of Italian 1858 Remingtons, but they all need work to make competitive.
Try for a good used Old Army to start.
My 25m gun's are a well modified Uberti .36 Remington or my very old Hege Remington and well worn .44.

Pedersoli has quite a presence with the MLAIC.
Are their guns considered competitive “as is”. Or, do they need work?

[David M]

The replica Pedersoli match Remington is competitive in the Aust International 13 shot match, but it will require a good sight set fitted and trigger work to be competitive in the Australian 25m match.
The 25m match is basically a Sport/ Centreline match (40 shot) shot with a Blackpowder gun. See the blackpowder pistol rules or better still visit a blackpowder competition.
A well worked over revolver can also be competitive against the single shots in the 50m event ( Freepistol) with a Blackpowder gun. Lots of fun, dirty fun.