I'm trying to set up my new home range to simulate a 10m air pistol match. Having never gone to one I need some sage advice as to how to set it up.
I have all the ISSF rules and regs on the range set up but what about other stuff.
Like do you put a small spotting scope on the table to see your targets (I have a freeland stand I use for high power), or is it more common to reel the targets back to check scores?
Can you put a range box on the shooting table? What about pellet holders. I've been using the R10 boxes and filling them with Nygords as needed.
Give me the lowdown on really how it goes at a match. I hope to find some in my area and want to be prepared.
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Need help getting the home range set up
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Bill Poole
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RML
Re: Need help getting the home range set up
At home you may not have a lot of space for a range. Make the best out of what you have. If the range give you 9.5 meters shooting distance instead of 10m, this is no disaster. My home range was only 8m. Make shure you have a proper backstop behind the target if a pellet miss the target. Have a good pellet trap that collects the pellets, and do not send them out on the floor. You may visit the website of Dr. Joe Matusic to have some ideas, http://www.babymd.net/aa.htm. It is nice to have a stable shooting table to rest your pistol and things on, and also as a stable base for a spotting scope.
Be careful when shooting if you are not living alone. Make sure that nobody walks across your shooting range while you are shooting.
In competitions you are not allowed to use a spotting scope for the AP event. In competitions you will normally change the target every one or two shoots, so you do not need one. But on your practice range it is a good idea to have a spotting scope. I use one, and shoot 10 shoots on every target.
Yes, you may put your shooting box on the table, as long as it does not disturb your neighbour shooters in any way.
The R10 boxes are ok. In a competition you should keep count of how many shoots you have fired. I used to take the pellets out of the box 10 at the time, but I am now using the "shaker" boxes were that you fill with pellets, and the pellets line up in nice rows that makes it easy to keep the count.
A short description of the match:
- Make a list of your equipment so that you are sure you bring everything with you. It is amasing what we manage to forget (even the pistol!!). The most important things are off course your pistol, enough pellets, and your ear-muffs.
- You arrive and get registered with the officials.
- You go through the equipment control were the trigger weight, pistol size, and your clothing is checked. Remember not to have shoes that are above your ancle.
- Then you find your shooting position (given to you by the officials), and unpack your equipment. Ask the officials if you are not sure if you may set up your equipment, or if you have to wait.
- Organise your things on the shooting table so that you have one place for the pistol, one for the pellets, one for the new targets, one place for the targets that are fired at, etc.
- Then the official preparation time will start. You may dry-fire during the preparation time. Make sure you do not fire a shoot, with or without a pellet.
- When the preparation time is over, the command "start" is given, and you are on your own. Shoot some sighting shoots, and make sure you fire the sighters on the targets that are meant for sighters, and not on the competition targets. Sighting targets should be marked with a black corner.
- Normally you shoot one shoot only in each competition target. But in some smaller competitions, two shoots may be fired in each target to save targets. Ask the officials before the match if you are not sure.
- Remember to sit down and relax from time to time.
- At some competitions targets are collected as you shoot. The officials may ask you to put maybe ten and ten targets somewhere behind you so that they may be picked up by the officials during the match.
- When you have finished shooting, you should sit down somewhere and wait until everybody has finished before you collect and pack your equipment. You do not want to disturb someone that are still shooting. Remember to ask the officials to inspect your pistol (se that it is properly unloaded) before you remove it from the firing line. This is not always done at AP-matches.
- And remember: Ask the officials if there is something your are not sure of.
Good shooting!
RML
.48218.48208
Be careful when shooting if you are not living alone. Make sure that nobody walks across your shooting range while you are shooting.
In competitions you are not allowed to use a spotting scope for the AP event. In competitions you will normally change the target every one or two shoots, so you do not need one. But on your practice range it is a good idea to have a spotting scope. I use one, and shoot 10 shoots on every target.
Yes, you may put your shooting box on the table, as long as it does not disturb your neighbour shooters in any way.
The R10 boxes are ok. In a competition you should keep count of how many shoots you have fired. I used to take the pellets out of the box 10 at the time, but I am now using the "shaker" boxes were that you fill with pellets, and the pellets line up in nice rows that makes it easy to keep the count.
A short description of the match:
- Make a list of your equipment so that you are sure you bring everything with you. It is amasing what we manage to forget (even the pistol!!). The most important things are off course your pistol, enough pellets, and your ear-muffs.
- You arrive and get registered with the officials.
- You go through the equipment control were the trigger weight, pistol size, and your clothing is checked. Remember not to have shoes that are above your ancle.
- Then you find your shooting position (given to you by the officials), and unpack your equipment. Ask the officials if you are not sure if you may set up your equipment, or if you have to wait.
- Organise your things on the shooting table so that you have one place for the pistol, one for the pellets, one for the new targets, one place for the targets that are fired at, etc.
- Then the official preparation time will start. You may dry-fire during the preparation time. Make sure you do not fire a shoot, with or without a pellet.
- When the preparation time is over, the command "start" is given, and you are on your own. Shoot some sighting shoots, and make sure you fire the sighters on the targets that are meant for sighters, and not on the competition targets. Sighting targets should be marked with a black corner.
- Normally you shoot one shoot only in each competition target. But in some smaller competitions, two shoots may be fired in each target to save targets. Ask the officials before the match if you are not sure.
- Remember to sit down and relax from time to time.
- At some competitions targets are collected as you shoot. The officials may ask you to put maybe ten and ten targets somewhere behind you so that they may be picked up by the officials during the match.
- When you have finished shooting, you should sit down somewhere and wait until everybody has finished before you collect and pack your equipment. You do not want to disturb someone that are still shooting. Remember to ask the officials to inspect your pistol (se that it is properly unloaded) before you remove it from the firing line. This is not always done at AP-matches.
- And remember: Ask the officials if there is something your are not sure of.
Good shooting!
RML
.48218.48208
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Jerry LeVan
Re: Need help getting the home range set up
Hi, I find a black and decker workmate to be a fine bench.
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My target stand is made of PVC pipe with a toilet flange on each end.
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Here is a closer view of the target...
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--Jerry
jerry.levan-at-eku.edu.48224.48208
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<img src='http://homepage.mac.com/levanj/.Picture ... tation.JPG'>
My target stand is made of PVC pipe with a toilet flange on each end.
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<img src='http://homepage.mac.com/levanj/.Picture ... 210172.jpg'>
Here is a closer view of the target...
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<img src='http://homepage.mac.com/levanj/.Pictures/Trap.JPG'>
--Jerry
jerry.levan-at-eku.edu.48224.48208
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Jerry LeVan
The Backstop...
The backstop was made by taping two 2x4 sheets of ceiling tile to a 2x4 thin sheet of plywood.
--Jerry
.48225.48224
--Jerry
.48225.48224
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Michael
Re: Need help getting the home range set up
My range is in the basement and is ten meters. Nobody is likely to disturb me there. I use the Nygord trap screwed to a metal shelving unit. I have a piece of plywood behind that. I shoot NRA Air Pistol matches and we are allowed scopes. At my home range I have my shooting box and scope set up on a Rubbermaid cabinet which is just the right height for the gun box and I store extra pellets and accessories inside. I used clamp-on shop lights with 60 watt bulbs. One is on the target and one is over my shooting position.
I have recently taken up free pistol (I must have lost my mind). I can use my range to shoot Aguila Super Colibri ammo out of my free pistol. It helps me get prepared and the Nygord trap handles it just fine.
: I'm trying to set up my new home range to simulate a 10m air pistol match. Having never gone to one I need some sage advice as to how to set it up.
: I have all the ISSF rules and regs on the range set up but what about other stuff.
: Like do you put a small spotting scope on the table to see your targets (I have a freeland stand I use for high power), or is it more common to reel the targets back to check scores?
: Can you put a range box on the shooting table? What about pellet holders. I've been using the R10 boxes and filling them with Nygords as needed.
: Give me the lowdown on really how it goes at a match. I hope to find some in my area and want to be prepared.
.48226.48208
I have recently taken up free pistol (I must have lost my mind). I can use my range to shoot Aguila Super Colibri ammo out of my free pistol. It helps me get prepared and the Nygord trap handles it just fine.
: I'm trying to set up my new home range to simulate a 10m air pistol match. Having never gone to one I need some sage advice as to how to set it up.
: I have all the ISSF rules and regs on the range set up but what about other stuff.
: Like do you put a small spotting scope on the table to see your targets (I have a freeland stand I use for high power), or is it more common to reel the targets back to check scores?
: Can you put a range box on the shooting table? What about pellet holders. I've been using the R10 boxes and filling them with Nygords as needed.
: Give me the lowdown on really how it goes at a match. I hope to find some in my area and want to be prepared.
.48226.48208
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BobZ
Re: Need help getting the home range set up
: Hi, I find a black and decker workmate to be a fine bench.
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: <img src='http://homepage.mac.com/levanj/.Picture ... tation.JPG'>
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: My target stand is made of PVC pipe with a toilet flange on each end.
: <P align='center'>
: <img src='http://homepage.mac.com/levanj/.Picture ... 210172.jpg'>
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: Here is a closer view of the target...
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: <img src='http://homepage.mac.com/levanj/.Pictures/Trap.JPG'>
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: --Jerry
Nice setup Jerry.Your "shooting equipment" is interesting.Unless I'm misstaken I think that Microtech UT-6 looks very similar to mine.
rzovinka-at-hvc.rr.com.48227.48224
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: My target stand is made of PVC pipe with a toilet flange on each end.
: <P align='center'>
: <img src='http://homepage.mac.com/levanj/.Picture ... 210172.jpg'>
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: Here is a closer view of the target...
: <P align='center'>
: <img src='http://homepage.mac.com/levanj/.Pictures/Trap.JPG'>
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: --Jerry
Nice setup Jerry.Your "shooting equipment" is interesting.Unless I'm misstaken I think that Microtech UT-6 looks very similar to mine.
rzovinka-at-hvc.rr.com.48227.48224
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Jerry LeVan
Close...
: Nice setup Jerry.Your "shooting equipment" is interesting.Unless I'm misstaken I think that Microtech UT-6 looks very similar to mine.
Actually it is the Scarab...
<img src='http://homepage.mac.com/levanj/.Pictures/Scarab.jpg'>
--Jerry
.48229.48227
Actually it is the Scarab...
<img src='http://homepage.mac.com/levanj/.Pictures/Scarab.jpg'>
--Jerry
.48229.48227
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Jeff
I just use a pellet trap with an old shirt stuff inside...
..and a blanket hanging behind to stop wild shots. Then I print out targets (for free- why buy them?) and put a piece of cardboard behind them in the pellet trap slot.
Not sure why special putty would be needed when an old shirt stuffed inside the trap slows and stops them perfectly. Same with the blanket as backstop-- the pellets are not even deformed (yes, I do mean the lead ones. The tungsten/tin ones haven't arrived yet.)
: I'm trying to set up my new home range to simulate a 10m air pistol match. Having never gone to one I need some sage advice as to how to set it up.
: I have all the ISSF rules and regs on the range set up but what about other stuff.
: Like do you put a small spotting scope on the table to see your targets (I have a freeland stand I use for high power), or is it more common to reel the targets back to check scores?
: Can you put a range box on the shooting table? What about pellet holders. I've been using the R10 boxes and filling them with Nygords as needed.
: Give me the lowdown on really how it goes at a match. I hope to find some in my area and want to be prepared.
jwolverton-at-hotmail.com.48242.48208
Not sure why special putty would be needed when an old shirt stuffed inside the trap slows and stops them perfectly. Same with the blanket as backstop-- the pellets are not even deformed (yes, I do mean the lead ones. The tungsten/tin ones haven't arrived yet.)
: I'm trying to set up my new home range to simulate a 10m air pistol match. Having never gone to one I need some sage advice as to how to set it up.
: I have all the ISSF rules and regs on the range set up but what about other stuff.
: Like do you put a small spotting scope on the table to see your targets (I have a freeland stand I use for high power), or is it more common to reel the targets back to check scores?
: Can you put a range box on the shooting table? What about pellet holders. I've been using the R10 boxes and filling them with Nygords as needed.
: Give me the lowdown on really how it goes at a match. I hope to find some in my area and want to be prepared.
jwolverton-at-hotmail.com.48242.48208
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Jerry LeVan
Re: I just use a pellet trap with an old shirt stuff inside.
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: ..and a blanket hanging behind to stop wild shots. Then I print out targets (for free- why buy them?) and put a piece of cardboard behind them in the pellet trap slot.
: Not sure why special putty would be needed when an old shirt stuffed inside the trap slows and stops them perfectly. Same with the blanket as backstop-- the pellets are not even deformed (yes, I do mean the lead ones. The tungsten/tin ones haven't arrived yet.)
Hi Jeff,
I did a "cost benefit" analysis a while ago and found that the cost of paper and ink printing my own targets was not signifcantly more than buying the Edelmann targets. In addition the Edelmann targets allow me to take twenty shots per target and still score the rascals. I found the NRA targets to "tearable" and had problems trying to figure out where the hole was and where the tear was ;(
I do at least one hundred shots per day and have found the duct seal to be very durable, long lasting and easy to clean out.
Do you have any problems at the end of the day with cleaning out the pellets from the cloth you use to stuff your trap?
On a side note:
I am sitting on about 60,000 mashed pellets and live in a small town, what is a good way to safely dispose of the used pellets?
--Jerry
.48268.48242
: ..and a blanket hanging behind to stop wild shots. Then I print out targets (for free- why buy them?) and put a piece of cardboard behind them in the pellet trap slot.
: Not sure why special putty would be needed when an old shirt stuffed inside the trap slows and stops them perfectly. Same with the blanket as backstop-- the pellets are not even deformed (yes, I do mean the lead ones. The tungsten/tin ones haven't arrived yet.)
Hi Jeff,
I did a "cost benefit" analysis a while ago and found that the cost of paper and ink printing my own targets was not signifcantly more than buying the Edelmann targets. In addition the Edelmann targets allow me to take twenty shots per target and still score the rascals. I found the NRA targets to "tearable" and had problems trying to figure out where the hole was and where the tear was ;(
I do at least one hundred shots per day and have found the duct seal to be very durable, long lasting and easy to clean out.
Do you have any problems at the end of the day with cleaning out the pellets from the cloth you use to stuff your trap?
On a side note:
I am sitting on about 60,000 mashed pellets and live in a small town, what is a good way to safely dispose of the used pellets?
--Jerry
.48268.48242
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Val
Re: I just use a pellet trap with an old shirt stuff inside.
I think it is cheaper to buy targets, than to waste paper and printer ink. Besides, good targets are printed on special paper optimized for punching nice round holes.
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: ..and a blanket hanging behind to stop wild shots. Then I print out targets (for free- why buy them?) and put a piece of cardboard behind them in the pellet trap slot.
: Not sure why special putty would be needed when an old shirt stuffed inside the trap slows and stops them perfectly. Same with the blanket as backstop-- the pellets are not even deformed (yes, I do mean the lead ones. The tungsten/tin ones haven't arrived yet.)
:
: : I'm trying to set up my new home range to simulate a 10m air pistol match. Having never gone to one I need some sage advice as to how to set it up.
: : I have all the ISSF rules and regs on the range set up but what about other stuff.
: : Like do you put a small spotting scope on the table to see your targets (I have a freeland stand I use for high power), or is it more common to reel the targets back to check scores?
: : Can you put a range box on the shooting table? What about pellet holders. I've been using the R10 boxes and filling them with Nygords as needed.
: : Give me the lowdown on really how it goes at a match. I hope to find some in my area and want to be prepared.
.48269.48242
:
: ..and a blanket hanging behind to stop wild shots. Then I print out targets (for free- why buy them?) and put a piece of cardboard behind them in the pellet trap slot.
: Not sure why special putty would be needed when an old shirt stuffed inside the trap slows and stops them perfectly. Same with the blanket as backstop-- the pellets are not even deformed (yes, I do mean the lead ones. The tungsten/tin ones haven't arrived yet.)
:
: : I'm trying to set up my new home range to simulate a 10m air pistol match. Having never gone to one I need some sage advice as to how to set it up.
: : I have all the ISSF rules and regs on the range set up but what about other stuff.
: : Like do you put a small spotting scope on the table to see your targets (I have a freeland stand I use for high power), or is it more common to reel the targets back to check scores?
: : Can you put a range box on the shooting table? What about pellet holders. I've been using the R10 boxes and filling them with Nygords as needed.
: : Give me the lowdown on really how it goes at a match. I hope to find some in my area and want to be prepared.
.48269.48242
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Bill Poole
Re: I just use a pellet trap with an old shirt stuff inside.
: I am sitting on about 60,000 mashed pellets and live in a small town, what is a good way to safely dispose of the used pellets?
I look at my growing pile of squished pellets in the can i store them in and I'm starting to dream of digging out the bullet casting pot and mold and casting up some round balls and putting in for muzzle-loader elk tags next fall....
find someone in town who casts bullets, balls, fishing sinkers or lead soldiers...
Poole
http://arizona.rifleshooting.com/
bill-at-poole.com.48270.48268
I look at my growing pile of squished pellets in the can i store them in and I'm starting to dream of digging out the bullet casting pot and mold and casting up some round balls and putting in for muzzle-loader elk tags next fall....
find someone in town who casts bullets, balls, fishing sinkers or lead soldiers...
Poole
http://arizona.rifleshooting.com/
bill-at-poole.com.48270.48268
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Len
Re: I just use a pellet trap with an old shirt stuff inside.
I take them to the club I belong to and dump them in the lead pit. The club recycles the lead and brass cases. They get something like pennies per pound...but the pounds add up quick.
.48295.48268
.48295.48268
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Jeff
Re: I just use a pellet trap with an old shirt stuff inside.
Good point about the better holes/less tearable paper-- didn't know the cost was the same in the big picture.
: Do you have any problems at the end of the day with cleaning out the pellets from the cloth you use to stuff your trap?
Actually, I clean it out VERY rarely, so not really (the pellets kinda settle to the bottom by shaking the closed trap a little.)
jwolverton-at-yahoo.com.48303.48268
: Do you have any problems at the end of the day with cleaning out the pellets from the cloth you use to stuff your trap?
Actually, I clean it out VERY rarely, so not really (the pellets kinda settle to the bottom by shaking the closed trap a little.)
jwolverton-at-yahoo.com.48303.48268
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Len
TCO of targets
When I print out it's about one cent a page with laser and about 2-3 cents a page with the inkjet.
I bought 5000 of the targets from Cibels and with shipping it is supposed to be about $23US per 1000 which equals .023 cents a target.
.48313.48303
I bought 5000 of the targets from Cibels and with shipping it is supposed to be about $23US per 1000 which equals .023 cents a target.
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Sandy Santibanez
The use of scopes for 10m
ISSF rule 8.4.10.1
The use of telescopes not attached to the pistol to locate shots is permitted for 25m and 50m events only.
HOWEVER,In the USA (update effective 4-6-2002)
USAS rule 8.4.10.2
The use of telescopes, not attached to the pistol, to locate shots is permitted for all pistol events.
So you may use a scope in 10m events at USAS sanctioned events. For practice at home if you do not have a means of returning a target to spot your shots, by all means use a spotting scope. Calling your shots is an essential part of your mind-set and training procces.
Be comfortable shooting 60 shots on a target, or perhaps only shooting 10 shots before walking down-range to change targets. It's OK. Shoot for groups, establish a rhythm, etc. That is what you are trying to accomplish. Remember, you are training, NOT counting your scores. Too many shooters get hung-up on practice scores to the detriment of what the training session should be.
tenx-at-san.rr.com.48348.48210
The use of telescopes not attached to the pistol to locate shots is permitted for 25m and 50m events only.
HOWEVER,In the USA (update effective 4-6-2002)
USAS rule 8.4.10.2
The use of telescopes, not attached to the pistol, to locate shots is permitted for all pistol events.
So you may use a scope in 10m events at USAS sanctioned events. For practice at home if you do not have a means of returning a target to spot your shots, by all means use a spotting scope. Calling your shots is an essential part of your mind-set and training procces.
Be comfortable shooting 60 shots on a target, or perhaps only shooting 10 shots before walking down-range to change targets. It's OK. Shoot for groups, establish a rhythm, etc. That is what you are trying to accomplish. Remember, you are training, NOT counting your scores. Too many shooters get hung-up on practice scores to the detriment of what the training session should be.
tenx-at-san.rr.com.48348.48210