Hand warmer for 10m Pistol Shooting?
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Hand warmer for 10m Pistol Shooting?
The Air range at our club is separate from the main club house and as such doesn't receive any heating until we shooters arrive and switch on the portable heaters. Sadly it takes about an hour for the room temperature to rise to anything that could be considered warm.
When I was shooting a postal competition there last Monday evening I resorted to tucking my pistol hand up my jumper (minus the pistol obviously) for a few minutes following each card, just to achieve some degree of flexibility in my hand and finger muscles.
My first thought to address this particular problem was the chemical devices that fishermen, and other outdoor pursuit types, use to warm their hands during cold weather. However, these things heat for up to 8 hours, which seems a bit of a waste for my hour and a half, or two hours at the club.
I then found the device below on Amazon (where else?). It is rechargeable, heats up in 15 seconds, and can be switched off again when I've finished shooting.
My question to the group is: Are such devices permitted when shooting ISSF/NRSA competitions? (Live or Postal).
I thought I'd ask you guys as some smart Alec at the club will no doubt challenge its use... probably because he didn't think of it first! :)
Many thanks.
When I was shooting a postal competition there last Monday evening I resorted to tucking my pistol hand up my jumper (minus the pistol obviously) for a few minutes following each card, just to achieve some degree of flexibility in my hand and finger muscles.
My first thought to address this particular problem was the chemical devices that fishermen, and other outdoor pursuit types, use to warm their hands during cold weather. However, these things heat for up to 8 hours, which seems a bit of a waste for my hour and a half, or two hours at the club.
I then found the device below on Amazon (where else?). It is rechargeable, heats up in 15 seconds, and can be switched off again when I've finished shooting.
My question to the group is: Are such devices permitted when shooting ISSF/NRSA competitions? (Live or Postal).
I thought I'd ask you guys as some smart Alec at the club will no doubt challenge its use... probably because he didn't think of it first! :)
Many thanks.
Steyr LP10 E
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Re: Hand warmer for 10m Pistol Shooting?
If anyone queries it, ask them to quote the rule number; then tell me because I can't think of one.Zeddsded wrote:My question to the group is: Are such devices permitted when shooting ISSF/NRSA competitions? (Live or Postal).
I thought I'd ask you guys as some smart Alec at the club will no doubt challenge its use... probably because he didn't think of it first! :)
IMHO, 100% legal.
Re: Hand warmer for 10m Pistol Shooting?
Thank you David,
I will let you know of any challenges... and indeed if it helps with my sub-zero shooting!
Cheers,
Jon
I will let you know of any challenges... and indeed if it helps with my sub-zero shooting!
Cheers,
Jon
Steyr LP10 E
Re: Hand warmer for 10m Pistol Shooting?
+1David Levene wrote:If anyone queries it, ask them to quote the rule number; then tell me because I can't think of one.
IMHO, 100% legal.
Zeddsded, could you provide the link for that item? Thanks
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Re: Hand warmer for 10m Pistol Shooting?
My club range is bloody freezing as well at this time of year. I like the look of that, I may have to get myself one. Thanks for the tip.
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Re: Hand warmer for 10m Pistol Shooting?
No problem, the Amazon.co.uk link is:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/HotRox-Recharge ... rds=hotrox
It's not as cheap as the chemical variants, but I feel that it will be much more suited to the kind of use I'm looking for.
Cheers,
Jon
http://www.amazon.co.uk/HotRox-Recharge ... rds=hotrox
It's not as cheap as the chemical variants, but I feel that it will be much more suited to the kind of use I'm looking for.
Cheers,
Jon
Steyr LP10 E
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Re: Hand warmer for 10m Pistol Shooting?
I use one of the old-school ones that runs on lighter fluid. Works great.
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Re: Hand warmer for 10m Pistol Shooting?
I've ordered one from this seller. Whoopee! no more cold hands.Zeddsded wrote:No problem, the Amazon.co.uk link is:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/HotRox-Recharge ... rds=hotrox
It's not as cheap as the chemical variants, but I feel that it will be much more suited to the kind of use I'm looking for.
Cheers,
Jon
http://www.amazon.co.uk/HotRox-Recharge ... TWRDM9TOMM
Morini 162 EI
Anschutz 1913 Supermatch
Anschutz 1913 Supermatch
Re: Hand warmer for 10m Pistol Shooting?
Thanks for this, I shoot at an outdoor range and what with cold and wind (the weather, not me) last weekend my scores dipped a bit. 20 yards with the LP10 was interesting. I'm just about to put and order in.Zeddsded wrote:No problem, the Amazon.co.uk link is:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/HotRox-Recharge ... rds=hotrox
It's not as cheap as the chemical variants, but I feel that it will be much more suited to the kind of use I'm looking for.
Cheers,
Jon
Cheers,
Mick
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Re: Hand warmer for 10m Pistol Shooting?
Our range is indoors, but bloody cold in the winter. I think I'm going to get one of those, too.
Re: Hand warmer for 10m Pistol Shooting?
John have you had to change the tip (the catalytic burner as they call it) yet?john bickar wrote:I use one of the old-school ones that runs on lighter fluid. Works great.
That looks very nice...
Re: Hand warmer for 10m Pistol Shooting?
I have one like John's that I need to dig out and try. I have been using the chemical ones and have discovered that you should not buy them in bulk. They have a shelf life.
I've also been told that if you seal one up well enough, you can halt the reaction and save it for later, but I have discovered that "later" isn't very far into the future, or, my seal wasn't that good.
I've also been told that if you seal one up well enough, you can halt the reaction and save it for later, but I have discovered that "later" isn't very far into the future, or, my seal wasn't that good.
Take Care,
Ed Hall
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Ed Hall
Air Force Shooting Teams
Things of Interest to Bullseye (and International) Competitors
Director, Charter and Life Member, eWSA
President, Long Lake Fish & Game Club
Re: Hand warmer for 10m Pistol Shooting?
Like Mr. Bickar, I use a catalytic hand warmer. From my experiences with various brands of these things, the original Japanese "Peacock" remains the quickest and easiest to light. The entire shell heats up, unlike some of the battery-powered units which only heat on one side. Their 'Standard' unit fits a pocket nicely, but when the temps get below 40*F at my outdoor range I carry it under my jacket to keep my core temp comfy. If you just want to warm hands, the 'Mini' should be enough. They generate an incredible amount of heat for the small measure of fuel used. Less than a tablespoon of painter's naphtha will run the Standard for 16 hours. To turn it off when not needed, just lift the wick housing. They ship with a nifty valved funnel, too. Amazon sells it.
http://www.hakkin.co.jp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TwknUGh3K8
http://www.hakkin.co.jp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TwknUGh3K8
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Re: Hand warmer for 10m Pistol Shooting?
I've ordered one.I then found the device below on Amazon (where else?). It is rechargeable, heats up in 15 seconds, and can be switched off again when I've finished shooting.
Have you had any problems charging it from the computer USB port ?
I have ordered a mains USB charger.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141431366548? ... EBIDX%3AIT
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Re: Hand warmer for 10m Pistol Shooting?
No. I've been using it for 3 or 4 years, but only in the winter months.rmca wrote:John have you had to change the tip (the catalytic burner as they call it) yet?
Re: Hand warmer for 10m Pistol Shooting?
You could probably make one from a snippet of Coleman lantern mantle, available at WalMart. No rooting through the wilds of the net trying to find such an item.
Re: Hand warmer for 10m Pistol Shooting?
The handwarmers use a tiny bit of platinum plating as a catalyst.
Lantern mantles work on a different principle. They are also VERY fragile once you've lit them the first time. They use a metal oxide that glows white when heated by a flame, which you can't see, but it still there.
Lantern mantles work on a different principle. They are also VERY fragile once you've lit them the first time. They use a metal oxide that glows white when heated by a flame, which you can't see, but it still there.
Re: Hand warmer for 10m Pistol Shooting?
Awhile back after a very tough free pistol match in a town called Napier in the middle of winter I was somewhat inspired into a design.
Couldn't feel my finger, it was terrible. Shot a mediocre score - lots of 4s and 5s. I digress.
Essentially the essence of design was a felt lined mitt which attached to the TOZ with domes/double sided tape: supported by a sub-structure of plastic ribs.
In the interior of this felt lined mitt there would be motorcycle heat pad lattices - available from ebay for like 5 dollars.
12V at 10W - drawing .83A. Small 1-1.5 A/h SLA battery would do it.
Anyway - maybe this inspires someone?
Couldn't feel my finger, it was terrible. Shot a mediocre score - lots of 4s and 5s. I digress.
Essentially the essence of design was a felt lined mitt which attached to the TOZ with domes/double sided tape: supported by a sub-structure of plastic ribs.
In the interior of this felt lined mitt there would be motorcycle heat pad lattices - available from ebay for like 5 dollars.
12V at 10W - drawing .83A. Small 1-1.5 A/h SLA battery would do it.
Anyway - maybe this inspires someone?