10m Air Pistol Rapid Fire Target ?

bebloomster · Post by **bebloomster** » Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:50 am

Any idea what the appropriate target is for 10 meter Rapid Fire Air Pistol? Where can I get some?

David Levene · Post by **David Levene** » Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:58 am

There is of course no official ISSF target for this non-ISSF event.

In the UK we use target 3259 from Krueger (go to the Rapid Fire Air Pistol 10m section).

Spencer · Post by **Spencer** » Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:28 am

Do you mean the paper target 10 m Five Shot Air Pistol (8.20.1) or the falling plate 10 m Air Pistol Five Target Event (8.20.3)?

bebloomster · Post by **bebloomster** » Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:54 am

The paper target 10 m Five Shot Air Pistol (8.20.1).

RobStubbs · Post by **RobStubbs** » Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:43 pm

bebloomster wrote:The paper target 10 m Five Shot Air Pistol (8.20.1).

8.20.1 covers both air pistol standard and falling target - for standard, it's the normal 10M pistol target.

Rob.

bebloomster · Post by **bebloomster** » Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:21 pm

Haven't printed out and read the appropriate section yet, however using the same target for both slow fire and timed fire seems a bit optimistic to me. Of course I'm used to the normal NRA bullseye events, not ISSF.

Stephen51861 · Post by **Stephen51861** » Tue May 06, 2014 9:39 am

http://targets.krueger-shops.eu/sch_en_ ... istol+10+m

This is the only site I can find that sells the needed targets.

Stephen

caa028 · Post by **caa028** » Tue May 06, 2014 2:53 pm

Is this the target (available from the US Kruger website): http://www.kruger-us-targets.com/index. ... 261-n.html?

David Levene · Post by **David Levene** » Tue May 06, 2014 3:30 pm

The OP started by asking about 10m Rapid Fire Air Pistol, which is not an ISSF event.

He then clarified it by saying he was interested in "The paper target 10 m Five Shot Air Pistol (8.20.1)".

The complete 8.20 section of the rule book became obsolete at the end of 2012 but resurfaced in September 2013 as the Five-Shot Air Pistol Rules in the "ISSF SPORT FOR ALL PROGRAM".

The events on paper targets are the 10m Standard Air Pistol events; 40 shots for men and 30 shots for women (and their respective juniors), as rules 1.1.1, 1.1.2 & 1.6. The target is the normal 10m Air Pistol target as 6.3.4.6 of the main ISSF rules.

David Levene · Post by **David Levene** » Tue May 06, 2014 3:32 pm

bebloomster wrote:....however using the same target for both slow fire and timed fire seems a bit optimistic to me.

It would only be optimistic if you were expecting the same scores, and there's no reason why you should be.

john bickar · Post by **john bickar** » Tue May 06, 2014 7:42 pm

David Levene wrote:
bebloomster wrote:....however using the same target for both slow fire and timed fire seems a bit optimistic to me.
It would only be optimistic if you were expecting the same scores, and there's no reason why you should be.

Just like Standard Pistol - there's no reason you shouldn't expect the same scores either ;)

David Levene · Post by **David Levene** » Wed May 07, 2014 12:40 am

john bickar wrote:
David Levene wrote:
bebloomster wrote:....however using the same target for both slow fire and timed fire seems a bit optimistic to me.
It would only be optimistic if you were expecting the same scores, and there's no reason why you should be.
Just like Standard Pistol - there's no reason you shouldn't expect the same scores either ;)

I wholeheartedly agree as far as 25m Standard Pistol is concerned John.

The 10m Standard Air Pistol event is however all shot in 10 second strings. The only slow fire events on the same target are the AP60 and AP40 events.

I don't know about other parts of the world but here in the UK the 10m Standard Air Pistol record averages at 9.325 per shot. That only equates to 560 for the AP60 match; hardly a record score.

john bickar · Post by **john bickar** » Wed May 07, 2014 12:54 am

David Levene wrote:I don't know about other parts of the world but here in the UK the 10m Standard Air Pistol record averages at 9.325 per shot. That only equates to 560 for the AP60 match; hardly a record score.

That sounds...low. But we don't shoot it here, so I don't know what competition scores would be like. I have long been on record as being categorically opposed to the 10M rapid fire air pistol events, for I fear that the same fate that befell running target awaits sport and rapid fire pistol. Those of you in the UK have my condolences, on multiple fronts.

I recently picked up an LP50 and have been using it to train for standard pistol. I've been trying to push myself to clean the 10M AP target at 8 meters (which is what I have at home). Don't know precisely what that would equate to at 10M.

And now for something completely different: it's apparently 1 day past my 10-year anniversary on TargetTalk.