Apparently the Baikal MP-672 has been around for a while (it seems to be a PCP 'version' of the IZH-46M), but as far as I can see there aren't any major distributors outside of Russia, nor does there seem to be much discussion here on TT.
It's on sale for 22,000 Rubles (a bit over $700USD) here:
http://www.tntclub.ru/catalog/s44/595/
There's a video (in Italian) of one at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqy_6ICUzLE
But has anyone on here seen/used/bought one? Are they available in the US?
Baikal MP-672?
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kevinweiho
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um... I shoot more accurately with my 1950's Webley Senior, a spring pistol infamous for its difficulty in use, with a very long trigger pull and extreme sensitivity to consistent gripping. The guy's very nice and all for sharing his thoughts (though as I don't understand Italian that's useless to me - not his problem, my problem), but if his shooting and the incredibly dangerous behavior of his accomplices is any indication I rather doubt what he's saying will be of much relevance for actual 10m AP shooters. Can you believe the guy with the camera getting so cozy with the target area? With a guy who shoots that badly?? In the follow-up video the cameraman does this again near the end, holding a flashlight to illuminate the target from just a few feet away, then stepping into the target area to take a look a second or two after the last shot. Scary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12NTbz_vbmA
I'm guessing that the ragged holes left in the target are either because it's a 'practice' grade paper which doesn't cut cleanly, or that he's using non-wadcutter pellets. My overall impression of the pistol is that it's not too shabby. They don't seem to have improved the shaping of the grip comparing to the 46m, still rather rudimentary shaping. The air stripper seems very simple indeed, just a flat plate, no cone, but perhaps that's sufficient. I like the thumb push thing they've added to the breech, seems to make it easier than the 46m. The 'training' and 'fire' switch on the trigger mechanism is cool, of course something common to most PCPs. They have also used an adjustable rear sight gap, much better than the rather awkward fixed slot plates of the 46m.
Looking around I find an Australian site selling one for about $1,500 USD, so hardly a bargain-priced gun. Considering that I bought my very gently used Pardini K10 with 2 cylinders and a Rink grip for $1,700 and similar deals are quite common, I doubt this Baikal offering will do well in the market. It just doesn't quite offer the refinement of most modern competition pistols. And comparing the weight to the top-end pistols such as Steyr, Morini, Pardini, Walther, FWB, etc., the thing seems massively heavy at a listed 1.3kg. That's just excessive, in the extreme frankly. Most competitive pistols weigh between 1kg and 1.1kg. An extra two to three hundred grams is likely to bring shaking to the hold of all but the most experienced shooters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12NTbz_vbmA
I'm guessing that the ragged holes left in the target are either because it's a 'practice' grade paper which doesn't cut cleanly, or that he's using non-wadcutter pellets. My overall impression of the pistol is that it's not too shabby. They don't seem to have improved the shaping of the grip comparing to the 46m, still rather rudimentary shaping. The air stripper seems very simple indeed, just a flat plate, no cone, but perhaps that's sufficient. I like the thumb push thing they've added to the breech, seems to make it easier than the 46m. The 'training' and 'fire' switch on the trigger mechanism is cool, of course something common to most PCPs. They have also used an adjustable rear sight gap, much better than the rather awkward fixed slot plates of the 46m.
Looking around I find an Australian site selling one for about $1,500 USD, so hardly a bargain-priced gun. Considering that I bought my very gently used Pardini K10 with 2 cylinders and a Rink grip for $1,700 and similar deals are quite common, I doubt this Baikal offering will do well in the market. It just doesn't quite offer the refinement of most modern competition pistols. And comparing the weight to the top-end pistols such as Steyr, Morini, Pardini, Walther, FWB, etc., the thing seems massively heavy at a listed 1.3kg. That's just excessive, in the extreme frankly. Most competitive pistols weigh between 1kg and 1.1kg. An extra two to three hundred grams is likely to bring shaking to the hold of all but the most experienced shooters.
Ah, in a google search I found this TT discussion of the same pistol dating fro 2007:
http://www.targettalk.org/viewtopic.php?p=72488
Seems the impressions then were of a VERY heavy pistol which breaks easily in normal use. At the time the reported price was $1,100. Perhaps prices are high in Australia? Someone reports that Steyr LP2 cylinders fit it and the result is a considerable weight reduction... but really, why buy something like this with such poor evidence of competition use in the past 5 years and several obvious marks against it? There are much better pistols available for similar money.
http://www.targettalk.org/viewtopic.php?p=72488
Seems the impressions then were of a VERY heavy pistol which breaks easily in normal use. At the time the reported price was $1,100. Perhaps prices are high in Australia? Someone reports that Steyr LP2 cylinders fit it and the result is a considerable weight reduction... but really, why buy something like this with such poor evidence of competition use in the past 5 years and several obvious marks against it? There are much better pistols available for similar money.
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izh46muser
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Re: Baikal MP-672?
Jr . I watched the video and to me it looks like all you have to have to convert your izh46m into a tank gun is the adopter that screws into the gun . On the izh46m the pump cylinder unscrews and there is a 0 ring at the bottom that needs to be replaces from time to time . So I was thinking why not order that piece and see if it screws into the threads if it does then get a tank and fill it up and see what happens .
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