Grouping at 8 & 9 string 12 o'clock.

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lg2011
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Grouping at 8 & 9 string 12 o'clock.

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My AP LP10e and APMorini titanium are both grouping a bit high but I cannot turn the elevation screws any longer because both of them are in its maximum. Is it my eyesight or my shooting glasses? I willl appreciate any advice please. thank you
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Post by David Levene »

Are you centre-aiming? If so then you might need taller front sights.
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Post by lg2011 »

Yes, my aim is center. Pilkguns carries the front sights but the choices are by width. Do you know where I can buy these front sights heights? Thank you.
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Post by David Levene »

Have you asked Pilkguns if they can get them for you?
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Post by lg2011 »

David, I will ask pilkguns. Thank you very much.
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Post by IPshooter »

All you need to do is add a shim under the front sight. Thick paper (notebook (the old kind) cover) works for me.

More specifically, I cut my shim out of the back cover from a spiral notebook.

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Post by Gerard »

Layers of aluminum foil can provide a solid shim, with very finely adjustable thickness.

As for the 'is it my eyesight' part of the question... I'd be more prone to guessing it's a consistent muzzle flip resulting from a slight 'heeling' of the pistol. If this seems possible to you (as in, you're not seeing the same sight picture just after releasing the shot as you were just before) this can result from either anticipation of the shot and tensing the hand, or from holding too long and reflexively pulling the muzzle upwards to compensate for drooping as the arm tires. Generally it's a good practice to get the shot off within 5 or 6 seconds. Piddubnyi advocates this strongly, as does a chart I saw somewhere here recently depicting hand steadiness/laser position through time. The latter showed most shooters become quite a lot less steady beyond about 6 seconds. That can lead to desperately 'grabbed' shots, which can often go high.

Since you say this is happening on two fairly different pistols, it seems perhaps unlikely that you are actually running out of sight adjustment... though I am not familiar with adjusting either of those (I use a K10 and previously a 46m, both of which easily allow for centre aiming within their rearsight adjustment ranges) pistols, so it's possible they are very restricted, favouring low-aiming practice.
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Post by lg2011 »

What a relief that it may not be my eyesight. I contacted Morini as well and their suggestion is similar. Put a razor blade underneath or a washer. Thank you guys so much for the suggestions.

LG
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