Young guns with Old Guns

bored184 · Post by **bored184** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:47 am

While cleaning my Anschutz I was thinking to myself about the history of the rifle and where it might of been prior to me. I was wondering this because the rifle is older then I am. I was born in 84 and the rifle is stamped 73. I have access to a 1813 and even a 2013 but currently I prefer shooting my older 1413. The rifle still shoots better then my abilities and I have no current interest in upgrading. I am curious if I am the only one out there who prefers shooting with a rifle or pistol older then them. It seems like most of my generation has to have the newest equipment and the best of the best. Am I the exception?

Bored184

SeanM · Post by **SeanM** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:51 am

Not sure if I'd say that I prefer it, but due to budget constraints my current setup is a Pardini k2 for 10m and a Toz-35 for 50m.

I love my Toz, but can't help but lust after the infinitely more adjustable rear sight on the Morini free pistol. To be able to adjust the width of the rear notch instead of having to cut new rear sights out of sheet metal.... that's the dream.

crankythunder · Post by **crankythunder** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:52 pm

I proudly shoot my winchester which is a couple decades older then I am. While I could easily afford one of the new uber adjustable aluminum stocked wonder rifles, I honestly prefer the look of old walnut, blue steel, and the ancient unertl scope. I do not think a new rifle will add many points to my score (if any at all).

Plus, those aluminum stocked rifles stick out on the firing line and attract a lot of attention too.

Regards,
Cranky

RandomShotz · Post by **RandomShotz** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:55 pm

SeanM:

Have a look at this:

viewtopic.php?p=115342&highlight=#115342

I did this to my TOZ and it really makes a difference. I made an adapter in the shop so that the elevation would match the old blade, but there are other workarounds noted.

As far as shooting with irons older than I am, there isn't much call for black powder arms in bullseye or FP. However, I do have a S&W Model 41, first series, and a S&W Model 52-1 along with the TOZ 35M. Sometimes I worry about the 52 since they ain't makin' parts for that any more. Numrich has limited bits and pieces, mostly for the 52-2 and not all are interchangeable. If I bugger the barrel, it's a paperweight.

However, parts for the 41 are available and I think I can make or fake anything that breaks on the TOZ.

Roger

Levergun59 · Post by **Levergun59** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:37 pm

My 16 year old son shoots a Walther UIT from the late 60's or 70's for 3P and his prone gun is a Winchester model 52 D from the early 60's. The 52 is a tackdriver and I believe it is as accurate as any gun you can buy today at any price.
Chris

Dr. Jim · Post by **Dr. Jim** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:40 am

I have three match pistols built on early 1911 frames, and a Chow 45 accurized in 1962, on a1943 manufactured US army 1911a1. Older doesn't mean less useful.
Three of my hunting rifles are built on Springfield '03 actions made well before I was even thought of, but one was a later LendLease action.

Dr. Jim

ralph4769 · Post by **ralph4769** » Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:56 am

I am proud to say that my long time winchester rifle which I inherited from my late father is still working good up to now. And I take care of it cause I value it.

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"He felt secured while wearing his police belts and holsters."

andrea · Post by **andrea** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:02 pm

Wellllllll... my rifle of choice for the muzzleloading competitions is an originale Swiss Federal carbine model 1851 made in 1852 or 1853....

Andrea

RandomShotz · Post by **RandomShotz** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:02 pm

andrea wrote: Wellllllll... my rifle of choice for the muzzleloading competitions is an originale Swiss Federal carbine model 1851 made in 1852 or 1853....

You mean the Eidgenössischer Stutzer? I remember it well. ;)

Well, it looks like that's trump. Could you post a pic?

Roger

Muffo as guest · Post by **Muffo as guest** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:20 pm

I use a toz35 that would be more than double my age. It was one of the first 2 be brought to Australia. I have only ever heard of 1 currently being used with a lower serial number than mine

DesertShooter · Post by **DesertShooter** » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:58 am

I shoot an old winchester 52 which weighs about 17 pounds. I'm only 20 and most of my competitors shoot the newer anschutz. That's not saying I wouldn't like having a new anschutz or even a walther though.

RandomShotz · Post by **RandomShotz** » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:27 am

BTW, according to listings posted on another thread in the Olympic Pistol forum, the TOZ 35 was shot by competitors finishing 6th and 8th at the Olympics. Although shooters with Morini CM84E's took places 1-5 and 7, it's obvious the TOZ can achieve competitive scores into international levels.

Roger

SeanM · Post by **SeanM** » Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:21 am

Haha yes yes I noticed :]

Had a feeling I might see a comment like that :P

RandomShotz · Post by **RandomShotz** » Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:40 pm

Well, Sean, save up your beer money, buy an adjustable Morini rear sight and mount it on your TOZ.

And if you still long for an Italian FP, just paint the forend red, white and green and call it a Tozzini Trentacinque.

Roger

j-team · Post by **j-team** » Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:23 pm

RandomShotz wrote:Well, Sean, save up your beer money, buy an adjustable Morini rear sight and mount it on your TOZ.

Why? The Toz rearsight does everything it needs to do. Adjusts up and down, left and right. All without the need for a screw driver!

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