HP-38? w-231

keith · Post by **keith** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:15 pm

HAs anyone used it with a 200gr LSWC in .45 ? Looks like it would be a lighter recoiling load than BE or clays ..I believe its one of those blast from the past loads that was once used alot but BE and clays ,VV n310 seem to have the staget now. Anyway I"m kinda new to the .45 . Ive shot clays and BE and of the 2 BE seems lighter to me and clays seems pretty sharp .

Rover · Post by **Rover** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:06 am

The two powders are the same, just different lots with different brands.
Excellent performance. Give it a try and see if it makes you happy.

oldcaster · Post by **oldcaster** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:02 pm

I think in general the slower the powder the lighter the felt recoil is but the action also feels a lighter recoil so the slowest velocity you can get that still operates the action can be a different speed with slow or fast powders. Try 4.8 to 5.2 of 231 or HP38 with the 200 LSWC in the 45 and it will be about right for bullseye. As said above, these powders differ only as much as different lot numbers and are identical otherwise. -- Bill --

Isabel1130 · Post by **Isabel1130** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:49 pm

One of the problems with slower burning powders is that they work great in 38 or 9mm but can be problematic in the 45. They give you a nice slow kick but do it at the expense of being potentially very dirty with lots of unburned powder

Dr. Jim · Post by **Dr. Jim** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:20 am

I have for many - make that about 20 years - used 4.3 gr of 231 and the H&G #65 LSWC for the short line. John Rochon ( a former Canadian National Champion ) recommended 4.1 for the short line and 4.6 behind a 185 gr LSWC for the long line. Said that the the two loads did not require any sight changes. Myself, I resort to Federal 185 gr jacketed match loads for the long line on the rare occasions that it gets warm enough to find a 50 yard range up here.

Cheers -- Dr Jim