A question came up on another forum about trigger release. I believe that most of us learned to release the trigger and let it reset after the gun settles after the shot.
When you do allow the trigger to reset? While the pistol is still recoiling or do you wait for it to settle?
Trigger question for all you rapid fire guys
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I release the trigger as soon as the shot is fired and as soon as I have traversed onto the next target I start the finger mooving\
I release the trigger for the reset as soon as the first shot has fired and begin applying pressure to the trigger when traverse has reached the next target, I want the pistol to fire just after correcting sight allignment and traverse movement has stopped, Hopefully in the center of the next target [ Especially in the four second string. ] Good Shooting Bill Horton
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I release the trigger for the reset as soon as the first shot has fired and begin applying pressure to the trigger when traverse has reached the next target, I want the pistol to fire just after correcting sight allignment and traverse movement has stopped, Hopefully in the center of the next target [ Especially in the four second string. ] Good Shooting Bill Horton
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Re: Trigger question for all you rapid fire guys
in the context of a Rapid Fire Stage, or Rapid Fire Pistol event, or a 'rapid' string in Standard Pistol?Wiley-X wrote:A question came up on another forum about trigger release. I believe that most of us learned to release the trigger and let it reset after the gun settles after the shot.
When you do allow the trigger to reset? While the pistol is still recoiling or do you wait for it to settle?
I tend to find that I work the trigger in a cyclic method. Whereby I start to press as I am raising the pistol, I pause briefly on the card and the shot breaks. I follow through with the press and start to release. Usually I am pressing again whilst traversing and the again pause and the shot breaks. So on and so on.
For standard it is the same just that I don't traverse
For standard it is the same just that I don't traverse
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As Steve Swartz has said "the millinium is here.". Two posts on the same subject that agree . Lastman I am with you!!! Good Shooting Bill Horton
How can you guys actually KNOW these trigger finger details without being in a conscious mode? There is no Int RF in my area. I have dabbled with a 50' turning bank Roddy made years ago, but my rapid fire is mainly NRA BE. I can clean a few HB rapids if I really work at it. However knowing the details of my triggering like you say is way out there if you ask me. All I know for sure is I am back on the trigger as I re-settle. Do you think we could make a 4 second series with hardball?
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Same as learning to dance. Slow it down to know what you are doing vs what you want to do. Perfect practice makes perfect. Once you practice in slow mode enough it becomes automatic as you speed things up.jackh wrote:How can you guys actually KNOW these trigger finger details without being in a conscious mode?
Personally, I have no idea but reference this article:
http://www.pilkguns.com/c5.shtml
"It was not until I was being taught (by a coach from Belarus) how to cycle the trigger in Standard Pistol that I understood their whole philosophy of trigger control. He was most annoyed at my habit of flicking my trigger finger to take the first stage for the next shot while I was still under recoil from the previous shot. He made me maintain trigger pressure while under recoil (and therefore in follow through), and I was not to release the trigger and start on the next shot until I had regained the aiming area. This was HARD as it broke habits of fifteen years or more. But what I started to achieve was a POSITIVE release for each shot as it was so much easier not to freeze on the trigger. Far from causing me to panic about wasting time it provided the basis for a smooth rhythm and deliberate shot-by-shot control."
http://www.pilkguns.com/c5.shtml
"It was not until I was being taught (by a coach from Belarus) how to cycle the trigger in Standard Pistol that I understood their whole philosophy of trigger control. He was most annoyed at my habit of flicking my trigger finger to take the first stage for the next shot while I was still under recoil from the previous shot. He made me maintain trigger pressure while under recoil (and therefore in follow through), and I was not to release the trigger and start on the next shot until I had regained the aiming area. This was HARD as it broke habits of fifteen years or more. But what I started to achieve was a POSITIVE release for each shot as it was so much easier not to freeze on the trigger. Far from causing me to panic about wasting time it provided the basis for a smooth rhythm and deliberate shot-by-shot control."
It's called a lot of practice.Spencer wrote:jackh wrote:How can you guys actually KNOW these trigger finger details without being in a conscious mode?...
When I am shooting rapid every single action is planned out to fit into the time. Down the the 10th of a second.
Then it's, practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and then once you have got that far all you need is a bit of practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and practice and you get the point
Being an elite rapid fire shooter is a full time proposition. Not knowing every minute action to the smallest detail would be like a builder not knowing how he uses a hammer
Substitute the word 'training' for 'practice' and then I'd agree.lastman wrote:It's called a lot of practice.jackh wrote:How can you guys actually KNOW these trigger finger details without being in a conscious mode?...
When I am shooting rapid every single action is planned out to fit into the time. Down the the 10th of a second.
Then it's, practice and practice.......
Rob.
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I am training when I am working to incorporate some new idea into my shot sequence. Then if the new idea works out I practice until my use of it is consistant. Then I go to a competition and see if it improves my performance. Some tines it does and sometimes I have to go back to the drawing board. But I always practice before a competition. Training takes place earlier. Good Shooting Bill Hortom