Thanks to everyone who helped me pick out a first 3P rifle. I found an 1807 in great shape locally.
Have a few questions?
1.Is there any special advice for care/cleaning/lube of an anschutz?
2.How do I adjust the height of the comb?
3.What do I do about dryfire practice..snap caps or is there short firing pin to install?
Thanks.
Got the 1807...now what? ;-)
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1807
In answer to your questions here goes.
Cleaning should be done after every shoot. That's when the fouling is still soft & easier to clean. Use any good quality bore cleaner with patches until the patch comes out almost the same colour as it goes in, then dry it out with a clean dry patch. If your rifle storage conditions are damp or humid then you might want to put a patch with some rust preventative on it down the barrel before you put it away. However you MUST clean this out before you shoot next or there is the possibiltiy of damaging the barrel.
The comb on the 1807 is adjusted by using plastic spacers between the stock & the cheekpiece. this can be a time consuming & frustrating practice to get it right. It can be almost impossible to get the position corect for all 3 positions. Once the position is correct you may find you will not be able to remove the bolt easily or be able to clean the rifle easily as the cheekpiece will be too high & gets in the way. The 1807 was designed to be used under ISSF rules for women & juniors in the 1980's which prevented the adjustment of items such as cheekpiece ( & other items) between the 3 positions. These rules no longer apply.
Dry fire with snap caps or maybe fired cases. Do not dry fire excessive amounts without either or you will eventually damage the firing pin. A dry firing firing pin is available from Anschutz but no doubt @ a large cost!
Cleaning should be done after every shoot. That's when the fouling is still soft & easier to clean. Use any good quality bore cleaner with patches until the patch comes out almost the same colour as it goes in, then dry it out with a clean dry patch. If your rifle storage conditions are damp or humid then you might want to put a patch with some rust preventative on it down the barrel before you put it away. However you MUST clean this out before you shoot next or there is the possibiltiy of damaging the barrel.
The comb on the 1807 is adjusted by using plastic spacers between the stock & the cheekpiece. this can be a time consuming & frustrating practice to get it right. It can be almost impossible to get the position corect for all 3 positions. Once the position is correct you may find you will not be able to remove the bolt easily or be able to clean the rifle easily as the cheekpiece will be too high & gets in the way. The 1807 was designed to be used under ISSF rules for women & juniors in the 1980's which prevented the adjustment of items such as cheekpiece ( & other items) between the 3 positions. These rules no longer apply.
Dry fire with snap caps or maybe fired cases. Do not dry fire excessive amounts without either or you will eventually damage the firing pin. A dry firing firing pin is available from Anschutz but no doubt @ a large cost!
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melchloboo
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Thanks guys. Also, the rifle came with a hand stop, I'm not sure if it was original or not. But it is missing a sling swivel. The stop looks like HSA-4751 in the Champion shooters catalog:
http://www.championshooters.com/store/p ... t=0&page=1
The replacement swivel is inexpensive:
http://www.championshooters.com/store/p ... t=0&page=1
Does that seem right?
http://www.championshooters.com/store/p ... t=0&page=1
The replacement swivel is inexpensive:
http://www.championshooters.com/store/p ... t=0&page=1
Does that seem right?
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Got the 1807
Beg, Borrow ,steal or buy a copy of Way Of The Rifle , O9 version And at least a case of what ever ammo your rifle likes. Dry fire, Dry fire , Dry fire and then go to the range. If you can find an experenced shooter master class or top master ask him/her to help you get your positions squared away. Last, enter as many matches as you can. Good Shooting Bill Horton
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If you bought the rifle from a private party, check with them if they still have the sling they used. That part (sling swivel, more or less) is usually left on the sling and detached from the handstop at the end of a shooting session. Otherwise give Champion a call, they are sure to sell you the right part with all the experience they have. Give them some time, though, most of them are probably still at the store in Camp Perry.melchloboo wrote:Thanks guys. Also, the rifle came with a hand stop, I'm not sure if it was original or not. But it is missing a sling swivel. The stop looks like HSA-4751 in the Champion shooters catalog:
http://www.championshooters.com/store/p ... t=0&page=1
The replacement swivel is inexpensive:
http://www.championshooters.com/store/p ... t=0&page=1
Does that seem right?
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HPS1200
1807
The sling swivel listed gives the right description for the handstop you have. The price of $10.00 is really cheap by British standards, they are about £11.00 over here.
The Way of the Rifle is a fantastic book & is well worth the money if you do not have access to a qualified coach. Beware of reading too much of the detail when you first start using it. Keep to the basics & keep it simple. Keep a shooting diary, record anything that is moved or changed & the result, good or bad. You will need great perseverance & patience but come the day when you fire a shot & you know it is a 10 before you check the result it will be worth all the hard work.
In the end there are only 3 basic things you need to be able to do, hold it well enough to shoot 10's, aim it well enought to shoot 10's & then release the trigger without disturbing the hold or the aim. Enjoy the challenge!
The Way of the Rifle is a fantastic book & is well worth the money if you do not have access to a qualified coach. Beware of reading too much of the detail when you first start using it. Keep to the basics & keep it simple. Keep a shooting diary, record anything that is moved or changed & the result, good or bad. You will need great perseverance & patience but come the day when you fire a shot & you know it is a 10 before you check the result it will be worth all the hard work.
In the end there are only 3 basic things you need to be able to do, hold it well enough to shoot 10's, aim it well enought to shoot 10's & then release the trigger without disturbing the hold or the aim. Enjoy the challenge!
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Melchloboo,
Oiling the bolt/action: I'd suggest wiping the outside of the action (and the barrel too) with an oiled patch/cloth/rag after each shoot. This will remove finger marks. Use a branded gun oil (not a solvent) like CLP, or just a light mineral oil. I also wipe the bolt after use to remove any crud, if the bolt face is noticeably dirty I brush this with a an old toothbrush. Afterwards I wipe the bolt body with a very lightly oiled patch/cloth/rag.
Oiling the sights: I would be very careful about doing this, as too much oil will attract dust and grit. On some newer rearsights such as the Anschutz 7002, I don't think you can get acess to the threads without disassembly. I use a compressed air cleaner, the sort used for cameras and electronics, to blow away dirt.
Stock bolts: yes, these will sometimes need to be tightened. Some shooters will use a torque wrench and test-fire at different settings to determine the optimum. Others notice no difference so long as the action is not loose. You can use a simple allen key; Anschutz would have provided one when your 1807 was originally sold, this would be quite long and wiggly. The wiggly bits a finger grooves.
A torque wrench is a useful accessory, but not absolutely essential at first.
Butt hook: Yes the plastic pad can be unscrewed and replaced with a metal plate and hook (either integral or bolted on). Be careful when using one of these, as the hook may not let the buttplate sit in the optimum location. Supermatch rifles (which have hooks as standard) allow the butt to be twisted or moved left-right so the stock is plced by the head.
Tim S
Exeter UK
Oiling the bolt/action: I'd suggest wiping the outside of the action (and the barrel too) with an oiled patch/cloth/rag after each shoot. This will remove finger marks. Use a branded gun oil (not a solvent) like CLP, or just a light mineral oil. I also wipe the bolt after use to remove any crud, if the bolt face is noticeably dirty I brush this with a an old toothbrush. Afterwards I wipe the bolt body with a very lightly oiled patch/cloth/rag.
Oiling the sights: I would be very careful about doing this, as too much oil will attract dust and grit. On some newer rearsights such as the Anschutz 7002, I don't think you can get acess to the threads without disassembly. I use a compressed air cleaner, the sort used for cameras and electronics, to blow away dirt.
Stock bolts: yes, these will sometimes need to be tightened. Some shooters will use a torque wrench and test-fire at different settings to determine the optimum. Others notice no difference so long as the action is not loose. You can use a simple allen key; Anschutz would have provided one when your 1807 was originally sold, this would be quite long and wiggly. The wiggly bits a finger grooves.
A torque wrench is a useful accessory, but not absolutely essential at first.
Butt hook: Yes the plastic pad can be unscrewed and replaced with a metal plate and hook (either integral or bolted on). Be careful when using one of these, as the hook may not let the buttplate sit in the optimum location. Supermatch rifles (which have hooks as standard) allow the butt to be twisted or moved left-right so the stock is plced by the head.
Tim S
Exeter UK